Value bet or not?

[Dave Mac]

hand 1 bet and expect to win about 100% of the time.

hand 2 depends on flow i think it is a bet as i cannot see what he has that would beat you that would not raise at some point but i also cannot give him anyhting cept like 33-77.
dave

[MrEngenic]

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hand 1 bet and expect to win about 100% of the time.


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hand 1 I check and expect to win maybe 30% of the time. But I don't raise turn without read either.

[celiholic]

hand 1 is close imo, what are you trying to get value at ? a4, 56s, 58s, 45s ? you can't really beat much after he call your turn raise and river bet. if you called turn and checked to, its a bet 100% of the time. beside, you got 2 bet againts a drawing hand on the turn already. the bet itself probably -ev, but it will increase ur spewage image so it maybe 0ev move if it gets to showdown

definitely a vb for hand 2, cos i expect a cr on flop if he has a 10

[Solid_p]

Bet 'em both.