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pretty sure if an extra point is blocked the play is whistled dead the second a defender from the opposing team has possession of it [/ QUOTE ] Not in NCAAFB. |
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The bolded rule does not apply to the OP's question. The rule refers to a situation where the defensive team kicks the ball into the end zone where the try is being attempted and also recovers the ball in that end zone. This happened in the Texas-Texas A&M game last year. It is the only time I've ever seen this in over 40 years of watching college football. As for the scenario in the original post, I believe only 2 scoring outcomes are possible on the extra point try: either the offensive team scores 1 point or the defensive team scores 2 points. If the defensive team gains possesion and does not cross the opposing goal line with the ball they do not receive 2 points. So if they attempt a drop kick in the middle of a return they would be foreiting a chance for 2 points for no reason. Bottom line, there is no way for a team playing either in the NFL or NCAA to score 1, and only 1, point.
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The bolded rule does not apply to the OP's question. The rule refers to a situation where the defensive team kicks the ball into the end zone where the try is being attempted and also recovers the ball in that end zone. This happened in the Texas-Texas A&M game last year. It is the only time I've ever seen this in over 40 years of watching college football. As for the scenario in the original post, I believe only 2 scoring outcomes are possible on the extra point try: either the offensive team scores 1 point or the defensive team scores 2 points. If the defensive team gains possesion and does not cross the opposing goal line with the ball they do not receive 2 points. So if they attempt a drop kick in the middle of a return they would be foreiting a chance for 2 points for no reason. Bottom line, there is no way for a team playing either in the NFL or NCAA to score 1, and only 1, point. [/ QUOTE ] False. See above. |
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1) Miami scores touchdown. The score is 6-0.
2) On PAT attempt, snapper has a seizure, sending ball sailing towards mid-field. 3) Miami's freshman kicker, who doesn't use his hands for a reason, accidently kicks the ball while trying to pick it up near the 45. 4) Kicker, upon reaching the ball again at his own 30 yard line, panics and decides to boot the ball thinking it will end the play and prevent him from getting annihilated by the thundering herd of linemen descending on him. 5) Ball goes out of Miami end zone. 6) The score is now 6-1. |
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So you are saying the kicking team kicks the ball through the opposite end zone? It is a missed extra point. 1 point is not awarded to the defensive team. The 1 point safety is only awarded to the team attempting the try.
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I stand corrected. From wikipedia:
College football's rules allow either team to score a one-point safety after a touchdown. Say that Team B blocks Team A's extra-point attempt, and a player on Team B picks up the ball on the 1-yard line. Looking for an opening, the player with the ball runs backwards two yards, where he is tackled. Team A receives one point, and the score is now 7-0. Team A then kicks off from its own 35-yard line. This has happened at least once before, in a game between Texas and Texas A&M in 2004. Another scenario would be if Team B had blocked the kick and began to run it back for two points, but at the last moment a pursuer from Team A knocked the ball loose. If he were to pick up the ball, run into his own endzone and be tackled, Team B would score one point, and the score would then be 6-1. Not only has this never happened, but it probably never will given the rarity of a block, a last second fumble, and a bad choice on the part of whoever recovered the fumble. It is notable, however, for being the only possible way to finish a game with a score of exactly one point in a game of American football. The NFL also has a one-point safety rule on conversion attempts, although such a safety can only be scored by the offense. According to former NFL referee Jerry Markbreit: "Under NFL rules, an unsuccessful try-for-point is dead if kicked, but while attempting a two-point try, it is possible for a safety to be ruled if the defensive team forces the ball back into their own end zone and they recover. One point would be awarded [to the offense], instead of the two points that are normally awarded for safeties."[1] This scenario would cover a situation where an offensive player was carrying the ball toward the goal line for the 2-point attempt, and fumbled it, and a defensive player knocked the ball into the end zone and a co-defender fell on it to prevent another offensive player from retrieving it for a two-point conversion. Although called a one-point safety in the NFL rules, the effect would be a one-point conversion. Until the AFL-NFL merger, all NFL conversion attempts - kicking, or running, or this "conversion safety" scenario - counted as a single point. |
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Edit; ya beat me to it. what he said
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