3barrel bluff vs ex noose, Party2550

[Hardgrove]

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it also helps if he views you as super sick who'll value bet shove KK here.

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How does the river change the strenght between Hero and Villain's hands, if we assume the chance of Villain having A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]c[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is really low?

[Chaoslord]

i dont like it, and i think hes never laying down TT+ here. the ace is just a very good card to bluff and he knows that you know that. Especially with all that history, maybe you should try to have it a little more often in big pots [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Hardgrove]

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it also helps if he views you as super sick who'll value bet shove KK here.

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How does the river change the strenght between Hero and Villain's hands, if we assume the chance of Villain having A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]c[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is really low?

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Sorry, I should have written:

How does the river change the strenght between teh range Hero is representing and Villain's range, if we assume the chance of Villain having A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]c[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is really low?

[Hardgrove]

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i dont like it, and i think hes never laying down TT+ here. the ace is just a very good card to bluff and he knows that you know that. Especially with all that history, maybe you should try to have it a little more often in big pots [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hehe, that would be the key - to just have it everytime..!

The Ace is a "good" card to bluff, but what will Villain put Hero on? Consider that it is a rr pot, which bends Hero's range towards good hands.

[Lefort]

Dylan: do you value-push KK/QQ here? Just curious..

[Chaoslord]

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Hehe, that would be the key - to just have it everytime..!

The Ace is a "good" card to bluff, but what will Villain put Hero on? Consider that it is a rr pot, which bends Hero's range towards good hands.

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if your image is very agressive, you are getting called very light, especially if the pot is big already.
http://www.pokerhand.org/?863401
this is a very similar hand and it helps to actually have the hand the other guy thinks you are representing if you know what i mean [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Noose]

I think it's a very good push on the river. Regardless of what I did after Hardgrove's shove.

[Hardgrove]

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Dylan: do you value-push KK/QQ here? Just curious..

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I think so, yes. KK/QQ will prob be ahead of Villain a ton on the river but I dont know if he'll pay off though (which should make the bluff work [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). On the other hand, there's also some value in not showing the hand etc.. (even though he knows now; but he didn't in the heat of the session).

[Lefort]

I feel like betting KK/QQ for value contradicts your justification for bluffing this river. If you think he might call with JJ-99 when you push KK/QQ what makes you think he folds those hands when you have 44? If you're pushing KK/QQ on the river and also making this bluff with 44, I think both of those plays are bluffs. Either that, or you DON'T make this bluff, and you push KK/QQ for value. You can't do both.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Hardgrove]

It's all about frequencies... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]