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Old 08-20-2007, 09:38 AM
Eric Yang Eric Yang is offline
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

why'd you check turn, it's not like it was even a scare card. Keep betting.

I put him on a Q lower kicker (maybe two pair) although I can be full of [censored]. still, pushing is terrible whether you have him beat or not. If you push he'll call with two pair and if he has tppk he'll just fold... either way its bad.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

Not raising KQ from every position is a big leak imo
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

lead turn, fold to re-raise
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

With 50/30 opps, I'm raising pre-flop. AK/AQ would have probably raised, so if a K or Q falls, I'm winning.

Many good things can happen by raising here:
1) I can take down the pot pre-flop.
2) I can get heads-up against one opponent with a strong hand.
3) With 1 or two callers, I can c-bet many favorable flops and take the pot down, even if I miss.
4) If I hit a K or Q, my hand is likely to be best, and a weaker K/Q may call me down. Imagine Q72 flop. QJ, QT and maybe even Q9s might call me down.
5) Raising from the blinds with more than TT+, AK is good for my image.
6) I can flop a monster KQ2 flop and because the pot is raised, I might be able to extract even more value from 2nd best hands.
7) I can flop a monster KKx flop, and pick up even more dough from something like KJ.
8) I can flop a straight draw and lead it.
9) I can flop the nut straight and get paid off by many two-pair hands.

In short, not raising KQ here against two loose players is giving away money. By not raising, I'm playing hit to win.

Lead turn, fold to big raise.

As played, you make a difficult decision for yourself. Is he leading out with 78 or just a crappy Q? Much easier to lead turn and fold to raise.

Now you have to play a guessing game and your reads have to come into play. Does he lead turns only with 2 pair+? Does he lead turns *anytime* someone leads flop and checks turn? Does he bet weak pairs on the turn? He leads for almost pot? What does it mean?

By raising pre-flop, you narrow your opponents range which also helps to make better decisions. Consider that. You can even experiment by choosing a couple of hands to raise from the blinds that AREN'T TT+, AK/AQs and get a feel for playing them OOP.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:16 AM
shark_fishin shark_fishin is offline
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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Not raising KQ from every position is a big leak imo

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disagrea, KQos is marginal in blinds and UTG, KQs is a better hand for raising in these possitions. its fine to raise it or fold it either way.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

You suggest folding KQo UTG? We'll just agree to disagree.
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