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$50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
Only about 30 hands on villain at time of hand, he was running at 25/10/1. I was running around 16/8/1.6 . We tangled earlier in the session when we got all in on the turn and his 2 pair sucked out on river to beat my set of deuces. Nothing else notable, he's played very solid. Do you get away from this hand or is this an autocall ? BTW I've only been playing 6 max for a few weeks, used to being a Full ring nit at the $100's.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($45.15) Hero ($50.70) SB ($101.60) Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($4.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3. Turn: ($10.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, SB calls $7. River: ($24.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $89.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero ? |
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
in my experience this is never a hand you beat
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
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in my experience this is never a hand you beat i fold [/ QUOTE ] I agree. if this is a move its a gutsy one. i think he will show u at least KK here if not the 7. totally player dependant these plays some players u would snapcall and he would show Ace high but most try to make it look like a big overbet steal when really they have it. |
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
You need to call 38 to win 63. This is a clear fold. You need to be good here > 66% of the time for a call to be +EV.
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
I'm not so sure about this fold. Hero has been betting at this like he has a serious hand, like a nine for the boat. If it is likely that hero has a 9, villain's river overbet makes ZERO sense when the T was a clear scare card to what hero is repping. If Hero is truly beat, overbetting on a scare card is a pretty retarded thing for a solid villain to do if he's trying to extract value. I think I call this 90% of the time. Curious to hear what others say.
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
The hero isn't repping just a 9. He is repping a 9 or an over-pair. I don't know why the villian woke up and decided to bet, but I have a hard time seeing a call here being +EV. This hand really looks like the villain has a seven, 99, or TT. With our limited read and low aggression factor, this opponent appears to play his hands very straightforward. This looks like he has the opponent figured for a big hand that he can crush and is going to put it all in to get paid off.
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
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You need to call 38 to win 63. This is a clear fold. You need to be good here > 66% of the time for a call to be +EV. [/ QUOTE ] You need to go over that math again. Hint: Calling $1 to win $1 only requires >50% equity to show a profit. However, this is an easy fold here. Sometimes this is a T or a 9 overplaying their hand, way more often than not this is a 7 thinking that you like your hand and will call a shove (thinking it's a bluff) |
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
Crap you are right. Looks like I need to go to bed.
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
Fold, clearly.
If this were party or everest though, insta call. |
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Re: $50NL Facing river shove with boat., not as simple as it sounds.
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Fold, clearly. If this were party or everest though, insta call. [/ QUOTE ] This kind of advice is so horrible. Even at those sites, there are decent regulars. The guy who OP described is a decent player. Did you even read the post? And no, Party isnt as soft as it used to be. @ OP, the way this hand played out could very well be a 7. He might wanted to get it in on the turn, but the 7 was a scare card, or so he thought. However, it could also be a 9, who doesnt want you to call with the other 9, or a T, wanting to scare you. I'd call here, since we only need to be good like ~35% (dont know exactly). If we get zeebowned, so be it. Just a cooler. Reload, moving on! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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