Call this down? San Jose 20/40 - Page 3

NewRoomNewName · #21 08-08-2007, 10:40 AM

The river was a blank and he bet. Fish folded and I called.

He tabled AQo

I can't believe preflop got go much discussion. I think it's definately correct in a fish pond almost all the time. Maybe less so in a tough game but should be done sometimes.

I played some more with Hank. Sounds like the tall guy with glasses and a hat described above. Friendly, looks kind of like Bill Gates. You guys got any more info on his game. Pretty solid but can LAG it up. Don't have a solid read yet.

Thanks

Captain R · #22 08-08-2007, 11:23 AM

Hank will LAG it up sometimes, definitely has a wide stealing range, but will rarely cold-call without a proper hand.

Everytime I raise his limp/blind, he check-raises me on the flop like 90%. He will not let a pot go easily heads-up, he will battle with air sometimes if he thinks you have no pair. He can fold though, so if you take a strong line (like bet/call flop, raise turn in position) he can lay down his middle pair.

Good player, LAG in the right spots, TAG in the right spots.

bernie · #23 08-08-2007, 01:52 PM

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I'm surprised at the people who don't like preflop.

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Preflop is standard.

Anyone that really doesn't like it should go hang in the micro forum and learn basic preflop play.

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Diana Ross Fan · #24 08-08-2007, 06:23 PM

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I'm surprised at the people who don't like preflop.

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Preflop is standard.

Anyone that really doesn't like it should go hang in the micro forum and learn basic preflop play.

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No it is not "standard." It is one way to play it that has its merits and its shortcomings. The micro forum is not the best place to practice 20-40.

bernie · #25 08-09-2007, 04:37 AM

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I'm surprised at the people who don't like preflop.

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Preflop is standard.

Anyone that really doesn't like it should go hang in the micro forum and learn basic preflop play.

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No it is not "standard." It is one way to play it that has its merits and its shortcomings.

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Bull.

This is a standard raise against this type of table whether it be 4-8 or 30-60. This is a basic preflop play. One that should be easily recognized and not even worth debating in a mid stake forum. I'll even say that if people think the preflop play is really worth debating, maybe you shouldn't be playing 20-40. It's that basic of a play.

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The micro forum is not the best place to practice 20-40.

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It is when it's about basic fundamental plays. Just because players play 20-40 doesn't mean they have gone through the path of learning basics.

Also, many live 20-40 games play like an online micro game.

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Diana Ross Fan · #26 08-09-2007, 03:18 PM

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This is a standard raise against this type of table whether it be 4-8 or 30-60. This is a basic preflop play. One that should be easily recognized and not even worth debating in a mid stake forum. I'll even say that if people think the preflop play is really worth debating, maybe you shouldn't be playing 20-40. It's that basic of a play.

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Why? Don't you like opponents who don't know the standards?

Cool Hand Luke · #27 08-09-2007, 09:03 PM

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I played some more with Hank. Sounds like the tall guy with glasses and a hat described above. Friendly, looks kind of like Bill Gates. You guys got any more info on his game. Pretty solid but can LAG it up. Don't have a solid read yet.

Thanks

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Hank is a pretty good player. Not real tricky but can semi bluff raise. Does it more when heads up. You should probably three bet here and take a free showdown some precentage of the time.

bernie · #28 08-09-2007, 09:29 PM

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This is a standard raise against this type of table whether it be 4-8 or 30-60. This is a basic preflop play. One that should be easily recognized and not even worth debating in a mid stake forum. I'll even say that if people think the preflop play is really worth debating, maybe you shouldn't be playing 20-40. It's that basic of a play.

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Why? Don't you like opponents who don't know the standards?

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Don't be a mope.

Do you not understand the context of that statement or the fact that it's being made on a strategy forum where people go to get help with their games?

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Diana Ross Fan · #29 08-09-2007, 09:49 PM

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This is a standard raise against this type of table whether it be 4-8 or 30-60. This is a basic preflop play. One that should be easily recognized and not even worth debating in a mid stake forum. I'll even say that if people think the preflop play is really worth debating, maybe you shouldn't be playing 20-40. It's that basic of a play.

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Why? Don't you like opponents who don't know the standards?

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Don't be a mope.

Do you not understand the context of that statement or the fact that it's being made on a strategy forum where people go to get help with their games?

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I understand it fine, using words like "standard" and "basic" to edify one line of play as the only one doesn't teach strategy.

bernie · #30 08-10-2007, 01:59 PM

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This is a standard raise against this type of table whether it be 4-8 or 30-60. This is a basic preflop play. One that should be easily recognized and not even worth debating in a mid stake forum. I'll even say that if people think the preflop play is really worth debating, maybe you shouldn't be playing 20-40. It's that basic of a play.

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Why? Don't you like opponents who don't know the standards?

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Don't be a mope.

Do you not understand the context of that statement or the fact that it's being made on a strategy forum where people go to get help with their games?

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I understand it fine, using words like "standard" and "basic" to edify one line of play as the only one doesn't teach strategy.

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That part of stat, imo, should already be learned before going into the mid stake forum. There are worthwhile, debatable preflop situations in mid forum, this really isn't one of them. And yes, it is basic and standard especially given the situation presented.

Yes, there are other lines. Other lines that won't make as much money as this one. Which is why it's a basic, standard, common default line.

The concept is beaten to death in micro and small stakes. Which is why it is referred to those forums. Just because it's 20-40 doesn't change that. The limit one plays doesn't necesarily dictate their skill level.

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