I dont like folding overpairs... in 4bet pots

[terp]

title is misleading; fold is easy

[primate]

You Equity in this pot is <50% easily.

Versus CO draws (with agg factor of 4.5 he is capable of pushing edges) your prolly 50/50 and versus his bigger hands 2pr/set your a big dog (NB. CO may bet his made hands identically to his draws to protect them). What are you comfortably beating? Not a lot.

Factor in the donk and his possible holdings then your Equity reduces even further.

Also fwiw you have no Redraws to a flush. The gutshot straight draw probably isn't clean.

Clear FOLD imo

[FoldEqu1ty]

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i agree with everything ike is saying here. i see alot of these threads in ssnl where everyone is looking for excuses to fold and then congratulate each other on excellent hand analysis, while in reality most of the villains are donks that stick it in with what have you and walk away with it.

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Take this for what it's worth, but I think that a lot of the solid winning 400NL+ regulars often give terrible for 200NL and lower, because they are out of touch with just how amazingly passive these games play atm. It would be very good advice for the games they play in, but down in the lower limits the games are just not that aggressive. This hand is such an easy fold that it's just trivial imo.

[pdoran10]

i have to think this is close the way you played it, and I dont mind a fold, but against the villains described and with your table image, I really prefer a bet/call as crazy as it sounds.

[Nick Royale]

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Im checking to induce...both these guys suck and one of them is always stabbing at this pot after we check.

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This is a terrible flop to check to induce on because it's so drawy. Co is bad, but not in a spewy way. Button is bad and might stab at the flop, but he will also call/push a wide range so betting vs him is better. This flop getting checked through would really suck.

[terp]

btw i think flop check is crap but the post asks about folding