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#21
06-26-2007, 08:46 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
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is 50/12/1.4 overaggro? [/ QUOTE ] no, his raises from ep are to be respected. This villain would save himself a lot of money by cutting down on the hands he limps from ep. . 
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#23
06-26-2007, 08:53 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
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matrix, is 50/12/1.4 overaggro? [/ QUOTE ] total aggression factor (the third number) is number of times bets or raises divided by number of times called. The higher the VPIP the more hands are played and the more the agression number gets diluted. this guy has been dealt 57 hands played 28 of them and has bet or raised more often than he has called. This is twice as aggressive as a player who is playing 25/12/1.4
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#25
06-26-2007, 09:06 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
Well, if I bet/raise 10% of my hands (postflop), call 5% and fold 85% I still have an 1.5 AF (10%/5%) but obv my bets/raises mean that I have the goods. That's of course extreme, but because of stuff like this I never know if 60VPIP and 1.5 AF is aggressive or not..
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#26
06-26-2007, 09:23 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
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1.4 is his postflop AF, [/ QUOTE ] Yes. how villains play postflop >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> how they play preflop. From the stats provided (50/12/1.4) we get the impression that villain plays too many hands passively preflop, tends to only raise his good hands - and postflop he is overaggressive and bluffy. (he is bettng and raising more often postflop than calling. As noone makes hands more often than they don't we can assume that he is bluffing a lot) Maybe he folds most of the hands he plays and only bets/raises his better hands postflop and is a lot less aggro than I am making out. We don't have that info tho. The best we can do as poker players is to follow what info we have and use it to make educated guesses about our opponents - ime most 50/10/1.5 types are bluffy over playing over agressive in the wrong spots kind of players.
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#27
06-26-2007, 09:40 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
matrix, thanks for your precise explanation.
[ QUOTE ] Maybe he folds most of the hands he plays and only bets/raises his better hands postflop and is a lot less aggro than I am making out. [/ QUOTE ] So if AF possible has this flaw, why aren't we looking at postflop bet/raise percentages instead of AF?
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#28
06-26-2007, 09:50 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
grunch This is a missed flush draw alot so I call the river. I would rather shove the flop instead of call though.
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#30
06-26-2007, 10:35 AM
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Re: NL50 TPTK faces AI push on river.
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[ QUOTE ] matrix, is 50/12/1.4 overaggro? [/ QUOTE ] total aggression factor (the third number) is number of times bets or raises divided by number of times called. The higher the VPIP the more hands are played and the more the agression number gets diluted. this guy has been dealt 57 hands played 28 of them and has bet or raised more often than he has called. This is twice as aggressive as a player who is playing 25/12/1.4 [/ QUOTE ] Matrix, the above is an important concept. However, it does risk a bit of oversimplification. If the PF-loose player's WTSD number is lower than the PF-tight player's then these aggression stats may be very similar. I.e., one player gets to postflop with a wider range but folds a lot to get to a similar postflop range when he does play on. Of course its not as simple as PF-loose player's WTSD number being half that of PF-tight player's - he won't fold some % when he can check it down.
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