The murder of children in AC land

[ShakeZula06]

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So last week I demonstrated how AC is flawed

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rofl. You made such ridiculous arguments that ACists and statists alike are convinced you're an ACist's gimmick account.

[TomCollins]

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So last week I demonstrated how AC is flawed

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rofl. You made such ridiculous arguments that ACists and statists alike are convinced you're an ACist's gimmick account.

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Step 1) Make crappy post
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Step 3) Declare victory!

[AlexM]

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Everyone. Wouldn't you? Or is there something wrong with you?
There was a time when child prostitution was perfectly acceptable. It isnt now based on our societal values changing, not because of capitalism. There was even an emperor who had sex with children then threw them off a cliff when he got tired of them (2000 years ago). How are you with "anarcho-capitalism" going to stop individuals from deciding that this is once again acceptable, when the only principle you are guided by is capitalism, without "laws".

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Individuals have to deal with society. If society decides that something is "wrong", then people aren't going to be able to do it with or without government. The most likely thing I see happening in this situation is that people take it upon themselves to "deal with" people who are exploiting children in this way. Perhaps they'll form some organization to deal with the problem, who knows? Regardless, the support for stopping this behavior will be so overwhelming that no security organization is going to be willing to protect the people guilty of this behavior.

[AlexM]

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You really need to solidify your understanding of capitalism. In particular, the fundamental tenet of capitalism is that the means of production are privately owned (as opposed to being publicly owned by the state).

On an individual basis, what is the disired outcome? Isnt it profit?

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Whatever that individual wants.

[The once and future king]

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So last week I demonstrated how AC is flawed because it leads to a society that lacks moral clarity.

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This made laugh more than any other sentance I have ever read on 2+2.

[pvn]

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So last week I demonstrated...

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No, you didn't. Moorobot?

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It's pretty easy to have an abortion or kill a newborn child without anyone even knowing about it.

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And how does a state change this?

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And even if someone does find a dead baby lying in a dumpster, what are the chances that they are going to investigate it? Pretty slim in my opinion.

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If you found a baby in a dumpster, would you investigate it?

[The once and future king]

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No, you didn't. Moorobot?

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Below the belt, even for you.

[Nielsio]

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So last week I demonstrated how AC is flawed

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rofl. You made such ridiculous arguments that ACists and statists alike are convinced you're an ACist's gimmick account.

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Step 1) Make crappy post
Step 2) Recieve criticism
Step 3) Declare victory!

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Profit!!

[Nielsio]

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So last week I demonstrated how AC is flawed because it leads to a society that lacks moral clarity.

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AC is not a 'thing'. It cannot be 'flawed'.


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Some of the more stubborn ACers many still not be convinced, so let's consider a more specific topic: the murder of children.

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This should be good.


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So what does the nonagression axiom say about children? At what point do they have a right against non-agression? Conception? Viability? Birth?

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Only statists claim positive rights. Abolitionists are wholly against positive rights. The only seemingly positive rights (like property rights) are actually a deduction of a collection of negative rights. Nobody has a right to use my body, so therefore I will use it.


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And on a more practical level, at whatever point you define children to have a right against being killed, who is really going to defend against children being killed by their parents after that point?

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Like I said: positive rights are false.

Who is going to defend children from being killed? What does any of this have to do with the (im)morality of the (actions of people in the) state? Abolitionists don't claim anything about how anything *should* be. They just claim how things should NOT be. i.e. murder, theft, extortion, genocide, etc.


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It's pretty easy to have an abortion or kill a newborn child without anyone even knowing about it.

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And?


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And even if someone does find a dead baby lying in a dumpster, what are the chances that they are going to investigate it? Pretty slim in my opinion.

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Why should I care about your opinion.


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Regards,
Steven Bickford

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Another pointless OP. Good job taking peoples' attention away from the murder, theft, extortion and genocide of people in the state. You should be proud.

[bdk3clash]

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Parental infanticide is legal in the Netherlands...

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Huh? I Googled and found a few references to infant euthanasia being allowed in very specific instances in the Netherlands, but the statement "Parental infanticide is legal in the Netherlands" is untrue. The Wikipedia entry even states "euthanasia remains technically illegal for patients under the age of 12," although this claim lacks a citation.