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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
Jesus Christ some people here have FPS.
Effective stacks sizes are $156, and the pot is $224. Why would anyone NOT shove here? The only possible argument for checking is if villain will bluff total air a significant % of the time. |
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] CRAI pretty sure its not even close [/ QUOTE ] for what reason? villain will never be bluffing and u really think that his v-bet range is wider than his range for calling a shove? if so examples plz. [/ QUOTE ] what are you putting villain on after the turn action? [/ QUOTE ] umm...a flush ldo? maybe A7/56/44 as far as hands we beat and he's gonna have A8 sometimes i guess. i think his range is super weighted towards flushes tho. |
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
Yah I guess shove is pretty obvious, he folded quickly when I shoved but I think he has to have a big enough hand to call with often enough for shoving to be the best option.
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
I would probably c/r since a 45/11 can show up with air here and almost always value bets with a flush.
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
most any hand that he's calling a shove with he's betting on the river.
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
But there are hands he could call a shove with that he might check behind on the river.
I guess most people think hes not bluffing often with the turn raise so will valuebet anything that he raised the turn with? I dont think his turn raising range is only flushes. |
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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counting on him to bet is bad imo. he's a donk just shove. [/ QUOTE ] . pretty sure shoving >>>> any other option most any hand that he's calling a shove with he's betting on the river. this is not true A4 will call a shove most of the time, but checks behind also, it's not impossible for villain to have like AT-AQ |
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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most any hand that he's calling a shove with he's betting on the river. [/ QUOTE ] ya cr |
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
I'd shove, if it was deeper I'd like a c/r. With less than a PSB, CRAI seems like FPS to me. Line is irrelevant if he has straight+, the money is going in. There's a good chance he'd check behind with an A, but I think these guys will call with an A, so I think shoving is best.
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#30
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
WTF shove!
Why would a donk be bluffing the turn here only to follow it up with a river shove? Someone mentioned before, effective stacks 156, pot is 224. Just shove. |
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