borg 20/40

[KitCloudkicker]

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when should i be moving up?

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How much money you got?

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br is in the mid 30K range

dont play for a living obv

[ImBetterAtGolf]

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jkamowitz likes to prey on 10/20 players who shouldn't be moving up. I can think of no other explanation for his comment.

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when should i be moving up?

just try it. see how comfortable you are. there are plenty of bad players at the borgata 20/40, but there are more good players. figure your win rate in bb/hr goes down and your variance in $ up a little more than 2x.



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[Penner]

I play the Borgata’s $20/$40 every weekend and will move to the $10/$20 a few Sat’ nights a month if a few of my friends are in the game just to play with them. I know both games.

Of course the $20/$40 games are tougher. There are a few less fish and a couple more tags at each table. There is poorer game selection, as there are fewer tables. But moving up, getting better, and earning a bigger hourly rate seems to be our goal.

If you built a 30k bankroll from playing $10/$20 then I would think you are ready to start playing.

Start sitting in the $20 when the game is good and move back to the $10 when it isn’t.. I hate the term "take a shot" cause it sounds like you aren't ready to move up but you want to get lucky and run. Mix it up till you are 100% comfortable with the bigger game.

If you can consistently beat the $10 and have built that bankroll playing, I think you are ready and it will force you to learn to beat the $20 as you did the $10.

Penni

[KitCloudkicker]

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I play the Borgata’s $20/$40 every weekend and will move to the $10/$20 a few Sat’ nights a month if a few of my friends are in the game just to play with them. I know both games.

Of course the $20/$40 games are tougher. There are a few less fish and a couple more tags at each table. There is poorer game selection, as there are fewer tables. But moving up, getting better, and earning a bigger hourly rate seems to be our goal.

If you built a 30k bankroll from playing $10/$20 then I would think you are ready to start playing.

Start sitting in the $20 when the game is good and move back to the $10 when it isn’t.. I hate the term "take a shot" cause it sounds like you aren't ready to move up but you want to get lucky and run. Mix it up till you are 100% comfortable with the bigger game.

If you can consistently beat the $10 and have built that bankroll playing, I think you are ready and it will force you to learn to beat the $20 as you did the $10.

Penni

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if this is the penni that i met at the borg with grease (adam) over dinner - nice to meet you.

[Penner]

Yes, it is. Thank you.

From what I hear, you should start to make the move. I love your $10/20 bankroll.

[sirlurkalot]

Penni,
So how much of a variance increase would you expect to see as one makes the move up?
Glad to see you here!

Spencer

[Penner]

Hi Spencer,

Thanks. I am a tpt reader but not much of a poster (sadly not a giver but a taker.. I am trying to change that) as I don’t have much time at home between my AC trips.

Your variance change is going to depend mostly on how well you play and your playing style.

I played $20/$40 in late 2005 and early 2006 but I was so tight weak I’d be embarrassed to admit my hourly rate. I was not very good either but was able to just beat the game with little variance.


If you remember, I dropped down to $10/20 for most of the last half of 2006 to learn to play better.

There is a slightly higher variance in my game now but my bankroll can handle it and so can my improved game.

I also think how comfortable you feel in new level can have a slight affect on your variance.

Sooooo.. to keep variance at a manageable level when you move up be sure you play well enough .. taggy. Make sure you have the proper bankroll.

Penni

[3rdCheckRaise]

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not sure if this is right place for this. if nec move to B+M.

i wanted to ask the 20/40 regs in this forum - what is the borg 20/40 like on weekends? is it at all similar to the 10/20?

it is likely that i'll be moving up to this game by the beginning of next year.

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If you want to take a shot at 20-40 i would suggest to play at the Taj. That game is just so much better.

[afish]

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If you want to take a shot at 20-40 i would suggest to play at the Taj. That game is just so much better.

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I have been very busy this fall, so I haven't been down to AC since Labor Day. However, the Taj 20-40 games are almost always better than the Borgata 20-40 games. I would say that the difference is that three nits are replaced by three LAGs. My general rule is to check out the Taj first and only head to the Borgata if there are less than 3 20-40 tables running at the Taj and it doesn't look like I'll be seated quickly.

Also, to answer the original question, 20-40 will be a little tougher than 10-20. There will be a couple of better players at the table, and the games will be more aggressive.

[that_pope]

Not sure if it will hold for an east coast game, this is the thing that I initially did wrong when moving up from 8/16 to the 20/40 game at Casino AZ, and had to move back down right away and take another 2 months before I made the jump for good....

My first attempt at moving up, I played much too aggressively. I was raising almost every hand in CO/Button if folded to me, and would never give up on a bluff unless raised on a street. I was trying way too hard to outplay everyone. I went back down to 8/16, played my game, and realized my aggressive mistake. I have sense gone back up, stopped trying to win every pot that looks available, and feel comfortable in that game regardless of the lineup.

Good luck!