Valuebet gone bad - so annoying.

[hellmuth88]

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This is a pretty easy fold IMO.

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[BombayBadboy]

I fold this. This is an 8 or an ace and never a bluff in my experience.

[sh58]

i think you have to call here, if he has quads, gg, but usually he shows up with a bluff. is he clever enough to c/r the R with quads

[Kairos]

You have to split here more than 77% of the time to make a call +ev.

[Michaelson]

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You have to split here more than 77% of the time to make a call +ev.

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That's if we're losing the other 23% I assume?

I think we're splitting here well over 50% anyway. And there has to be some chance our full house is good, right?

I'm not as sure as everyone else that this is a fold.

[Unknown Soldier]

im suprised noones mentioned the other streets

why so small on the flop? why did you check the turn? he aint folding 22 on the turn.

River, bet more again but meh probably a fold, not an easy one i think its closer then people are making it out to be, you're splitting alot, and i he definitely could be bluffing here. He floats this flop with all kinds of crap. I thinbk i've just talked myself into calling [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] specific tendancies of villain could swing it. You mentioned him being pretty agro? meh, call. If it's a mistake i really dont think it's a big one at all.

[Bulletproof Monk]

what is the point of betting more on the river? i actually feel like we should bet less

[Unknown Soldier]

he calls soooo wide here, we checked the turn to disguise an A (i think, although id never check here).

why would you bet less? We are playing against a really bad player here

[Kairos]

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You have to split here more than 77% of the time to make a call +ev.



That's if we're losing the other 23% I assume?

I think we're splitting here well over 50% anyway. And there has to be some chance our full house is good, right?

I'm not as sure as everyone else that this is a fold.

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I didn't read he was aggro. I assumed he was an average loose passive fish. But does he really bluff here often enough to make this a call?
It's of course an instacall if he can show up with 99 or whatever here.

[kaah]

This is quads 70% of the time and split 25% of the time. Whats his nick