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#21
05-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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This guy probably could
In 1950, Sosai (the founder) Mas Oyama started testing (and demonstrating) his power by fighting bulls. In all, he fought 52 bulls, three of which were killed instantly, and 49 had their horns taken off with knife hand blows. That it is not to say that it was all that easy for him. Oyama was fond of remembering that his first attempt just resulted in an angry bull. In 1957, at the age of 34, he was nearly killed in Mexico when a bull got some of his own back and gored him. Oyama somehow managed to pull the bull off and break off his horn. He was bedridden for 6 months while he recoverd from the usually fatal wound. Today of course, the animal rights groups would have something to say about these demonstrations, despite the fact that the animals were already all destined for slaughter.
In 1952, he travelled the United States for a year, demonstrating his karate live and on national televison. During subsequent years, he took on all challengers, resulting in fights with 270 different people. The vast majority of these were defeated with one punch! A fight never lasted more than three minutes, and most rarely lasted more than a few seconds. His fighting principle was simple — if he got through to you, that was it. If he hit you, you broke. If you blocked a rib punch, you arm was broken or dislocated. If you didn't block, your rib was broken. He became known as the Godhand, a living manifestation of the Japanese warriors' maxim Ichi geki, Hissatsu or "One strike, certain death". To him, this was the true aim of technique in karate. The fancy footwork and intricate techniques were secondary (though he was also known for the power of his head kicks). It was during one of his visits to the United States that Mas Oyama met Jacques Sandulescu, a big (190 cm and 190 kg of muscle) Romanian who had been taken prisoner by the Red Army at the age of 16, and sent to the coal mines as a slave labourer for two years. They quickly became friends and remained so for the rest of Oyama's life, and Jacques still trains and acts as advisor to the IKO(1) to this day. You can read a short biography of his on this site or read his autobiography at http://donbas.com. 
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#23
05-01-2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: This guy probably could
Dude, I was trying to post and 2p2 crapped the bed on me. So you beat me to this:
"This all depends on whether the horse allows you to walk up to it or not. If so, there are people who are strong enough to sucker punch or kick the horse in such a way as to debilitate it. Then they could obviously kill it in whatever way they want since the horse's main forms of defense are kicking, trampling and running away. This guy might have had a chance, for example: [ QUOTE ] In 1953, Oyama opened his own karate dojo, named "Oyama Dojo," in Tokyo but continued to travel around Japan and the world giving martial arts demonstrations, including the fighting and killing of live bulls with his bare hands [/ QUOTE ]
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#26
05-01-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: Could you kill a horse, barehanded?
I'm not sure that an athletic person could kill a sheep barehanded. You'd have to headlock it to the ground and strangle it. It would kick the everlasting crap out of you - real bruising, tearing kicks.
Horse? No way.
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#27
05-01-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: Could you kill a horse, barehanded?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Barehanded!? I don't think there is any human who could kill a horse bare handed, unless the horse had been trained by the human and just let the human have its way with it. But even then it would be very difficult. I suppose the best strategy would be to try to break one of the horses legs first. But I don't see how any human would be able to do that without the horse running away first. [/ QUOTE ] This is definitely wrong, there are people strong enough to kill a horse. I am probably not one of them, but if I had to try, I'd break one of its legs so it has to be put down. [/ QUOTE ] what's definitely wrong? he didn't say there aren't people strong enough to kill a horse...he said it would be difficult. he also agreed that breaking its leg would be the best plan. and his point was, how do you get the horse to stand there while you try to break his leg? plus i would think you get a pretty mean kick a good percentage of the time [/ QUOTE ] The definitely wrong part is that there is no human that could kill a horse barehanded.
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#29
05-01-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: Could you kill a horse, barehanded?
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that an athletic person could kill a sheep barehanded. [/ QUOTE ] okok, im 100% sure I could kill a sheep. Not even close. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, based on your post, you have experience killing or at least wrestling sheep. A sheep would certainly be more doable since a large human at least outweighs a sheep and can muscle it down and potentially choke it out. Still, I agree with Bison that most people just wouldn't have the vicousness needed to kill a sheep with their bare hands. Mindset is hugely important in any match-up like these, even in a battle against a smaller and more docile critter like a sheep. Swede
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#30
05-01-2007, 02:40 PM
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Re: Could you kill a horse, barehanded?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm not sure that an athletic person could kill a sheep barehanded. [/ QUOTE ] okok, im 100% sure I could kill a sheep. Not even close. [/ QUOTE ] Obviously, based on your post, you have experience killing or at least wrestling sheep. A sheep would certainly be more doable since a large human at least outweighs a sheep and can muscle it down and potentially choke it out. Still, I agree with Bison that most people just wouldn't have the vicousness needed to kill a sheep with their bare hands. Mindset is hugely important in any match-up like these, even in a battle against a smaller and more docile critter like a sheep. Swede [/ QUOTE ] Swede - OP's discussion with friend might already prove a predisposition towards violence and/or bestiality.
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