It's going for $1,000,000,000 per kilo - Page 3

FlFishOn · #21 06-07-2006, 09:17 PM

I just did the math myself. At 10 cent / KWH, 1 kilo mass turns into $2.5 B energy, totally converted. It's simple equations. I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Rhett · #22 06-07-2006, 09:46 PM

Wow, you did the math yourself! Too bad that only proves it's true in ... nowhere. Being a gambling site, I'm willing to bet you're wrong. I do make mistakes sometimes with calculating things, and I posted my reasoning here in case someone wants to try to correct my errors.

1000 A-V-hr = 0.1 dollars
@
120 volts
That's:
83.33333333 a-hour / dollar
1.86E+24 electrons per dollar
1.69446E-06 kg /dollar
1694.46 kg / billion dollars

CallMeIshmael · #23 06-07-2006, 09:51 PM

I know little about physics, but I believe this is how he got it:

1 kw-H = 3,600,000 J

3,600,000J/(c^2) = 4*10-11kg

$0.1/(4*10-11kg) = $2.5 bill / kg

Im not sure if any of these steps are not allowed, since this is a field I will admit I dont know a lot about. Thats just how I think he got it.

Rhett · #24 06-07-2006, 09:59 PM

Ok, well that reasoning is fantasy. You are assuming that when you buy electricity, something takes exactly the amount of mass and converts all the mass directly to the energy you need. At which point, this pure energy of course has no mass, so the original question doesn't make any sense either.

FlFishOn · #25 06-07-2006, 09:59 PM

The issue is not weighing electrons. Get it? Obviously not.

FlFishOn · #26 06-07-2006, 10:00 PM

Just so. Sub in 4 cents/KWH and it works out.

FlFishOn · #27 06-07-2006, 10:01 PM

You seem to be the only one that doesn't get it.

Rhett · #28 06-07-2006, 10:03 PM

What do you think electricity is made out of?

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The issue is not weighing electrons. Get it? Obviously not.

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FlFishOn · #29 06-07-2006, 10:09 PM

"What do you think electricity is made out of?"

In this context, missing mass.

OrigamiSensei · #30 06-07-2006, 10:26 PM

It makes far more sense to look at it the way Rhett does the calculation. I can't vouch for all the numbers themselves (haven't looked at this stuff in years) but from a common sense view the methodology sure makes much more sense than E equals mc squared. Once a kilogram of electrons has crossed some arbitrary border between your house and the electric company much did you pay for that electricity? Simple and sensible.