We haven't won yet: latest (10/19) cliff's notes on AP scandal

[sheetsworld]

Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

[ibluffoldladies]

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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Was it just YOUR HH or was it like the leaked file with the entire tournaments?

[apefish]

I'm glad Sheets posted that because that really has been the forgotten account thru this all.
It was mentioned very briefly each time it came up- and it wasn't scrutinized publicly like the Potripper win, or the obvious sessions by doubledrag.

[aislephive]

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I'm glad Sheets posted that because that really has been the forgotten account thru this all.
It was mentioned very briefly each time it came up- and it wasn't scrutinized publicly like the Potripper win, or the obvious sessions by doubledrag.

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None of the articles really mentioned the cheating with DOUBLEDRAG, even though POTRIPPER only won a fraction in the tournament compared to the high stakes limit and NL cheating.

In the OP it says Mark Seif is fine with letting his suspicious sessions be checked. I wouldn't trust any HH's AP sends regarding Seif. They can easily doctor the hands to look like nothing happened, and given how shady they've been during this whole mess, I would probably expect them to. The only hand histories I would trust their authenticity is when they would have no reason to lie (ie something that has already been proven).

[adanthar]

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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I identified it from Sheets' and Grinder's (who finished fifth) hand histories and publicly mentioned Payup as the fifth account, but didn't bother making all but a few hands of that donkament public because I was getting tired of obvious superuser accounts by then and it was obvious to everyone anyhow.

Sample HH from the tournament: the guy plays 90/80 for 4 hours, then gets AhKh up against 77 on a 7xx 2 heart flop and check/calls.

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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I identified it from Sheets' and Grinder's (who finished fifth) hand histories and publicly mentioned Payup as the fifth account, but didn't bother making all but a few hands of that donkament public because I was getting tired of obvious superuser accounts by then and it was obvious to everyone anyhow.

Sample HH from the tournament: the guy plays 90/80 for 4 hours, then gets AhKh up against 77 on a 7xx 2 heart flop and check/calls.

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Thanks for the info. Is there any proof that this guy played his hands the same way he did as POTRIPPER when it came to opponents mid pocket pairs?

[adanthar]

you'll have to take my word for it solely because it got really really old, but trust me, he had the "donkey seeing hole cards" thing down pat

[SgtJake]

Won't the mass media lose interest in this story soon? And isn't AP very happy with the way they've come out so far in the media? They have little motivation to do much else at this point (other than player reimbursement).

DROP SOME BOMBS

[slickmick777]

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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I identified it from Sheets' and Grinder's (who finished fifth) hand histories and publicly mentioned Payup as the fifth account, but didn't bother making all but a few hands of that donkament public because I was getting tired of obvious superuser accounts by then and it was obvious to everyone anyhow.

Sample HH from the tournament: the guy plays 90/80 for 4 hours, then gets AhKh up against 77 on a 7xx 2 heart flop and check/calls.

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this is huge and shows that this has more than likely happened in more than one donkument.
what was the action after the check call???
ty for everything adanthar and everyone!