Hand 2: NYC Live 200/400 vs TheTakeover

[durrrr]

this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

[rock1]

Do people think that Nick ever plays AA or KK this way given that he has 2 very aggressive players behind him?

[raptor517]

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

[Jman28]

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

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You two are so cute.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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this is a pretty easy turn value shove...

edit: i can deal w/ call call or even call/decide

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fwiw, i think call call is 100x better than shoving turn. like, its not even close imo.

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You two are so cute.

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You three are so cute.

[CASINOCASINO]

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Why does noone shove the turn? This is effectively a 200/400 hand... you only have a little over 100 BB's with 45k. There is about 5500 put in preflop, and by the time it gets to you on the turn, 3k + 6k + 16k = 25k + 5500 = 30/31k. Why call? You have AJ, nick probably isn't folding any jack with a worse kicker here... he could have a bunch of draws, and if the river blanks I don't think he bluffs (I seriously doubt nick would put you on a draw, so therefore your turn call = river call, he will shut down IMO). So by calling you are giving him a free shot to beat you if he's semi-bluffing, and I don't see you folding any blank rivers anyways. So where is the value of calling?

Surprised noone has said this, but this is an easy turn shove imo.

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agreed fully.

[rock1]

All those saying shove the turn, what hands do you think Nick is calling with that we are ahead of? Are we representing flush draw by doing so?

[Wayneo]

Id snap call, and expect to see a bluff.

[Get_better_Baris]

ill shrug my shoulders and call, ill rr turn tho

[ades]

Villains' stacks are pretty important - we need to know more than that whether or not they cover your 45k.