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#22
03-21-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
lol I would suggest his range here as QQ+,AK. He doesnt have that many chips and all this is taking place in late position. Others are suggesting 66+ etc. etc.
Against QQ+,AK we only need 1.77 to 1 to call here. If you think he only ever has AA,KK that is fine, but I think its wrong. I agree if opponent knows we only ever have KK+ plus here its an easy fold but try not to be such a w@nker while voicing your opinions. 
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#24
03-21-2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
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lol I would suggest his range here as QQ+,AK. He doesnt have that many chips and all this is taking place in late position. Others are suggesting 66+ etc. etc. Against QQ+,AK we only need 1.77 to 1 to call here. If you think he only ever has AA,KK that is fine, but I think its wrong. I agree if opponent knows we only ever have KK+ plus here its an easy fold but try not to be such a w@nker while voicing your opinions. [/ QUOTE ] doesn't have many chips? he has 9k and blinds at 50/100!!! he has a HUGE stack. he's not pushing 9k at this level without a MONSTER!! QQ just calls the 2500 here 95% of the time, wants to see a flop and decide. AK is a possibility, but once again, after getting reraised to 2500, and with a stack of 9k, AK often just calls. when he puts 9k in the middle at this early stage, its rarely ever AK or QQ or worse. Of course, if this is much later in the tourney, this whole conversation would change dramatically. calling here with 99 is not a leak, the whole bottom fell out of the pail. -Scott
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#25
03-21-2007, 12:26 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
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lol poker stove it, good post btw. 2.2 to 1 is right. [/ QUOTE ] I can make pokerstove prove anything, when I put in a range that gets the results I'm looking for. my point is your range is way off. -Scott
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#26
03-21-2007, 12:33 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
He has 6k.
It would be stupid to call off half your stack here. The only reason I pick TT+ is because its the worst possible range for 99, I agree it should be much much tighter than this. If you pokerstove it, this decision comes down to whether AK is part of his range, if it is - this is the easiest call in the world. If not this is a fold.
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#28
03-21-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
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He has 6k. It would be stupid to call off half your stack here. The only reason I pick TT+ is because its the worst possible range for 99, I agree it should be much much tighter than this. If you pokerstove it, this decision comes down to whether AK is part of his range, if it is - this is the easiest call in the world. If not this is a fold. [/ QUOTE ] The guy who put in the 4th raise had a 9k stack. no way in hell he's putting 9k in the middle with TT!! dude lay off the funny cigs. -Scott
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#29
03-21-2007, 12:43 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
We have 9k, opponent has 6k.
We raise with 99 to 300, he r/r to 900, we raise to 2500, he pushes 6300 total. He has 6k! I dont know how to explain this any clearer to you than, it is much worse for our opponent to have TT+,AK here than AA,AK. Hence I picked worst case scenario with TT+,AK even though he should be moving much tighter than this.
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#30
03-21-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: Placing you in opponent\'s seat....
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[ QUOTE ] He has 6k. It would be stupid to call off half your stack here. The only reason I pick TT+ is because its the worst possible range for 99, I agree it should be much much tighter than this. If you pokerstove it, this decision comes down to whether AK is part of his range, if it is - this is the easiest call in the world. If not this is a fold. [/ QUOTE ] The guy who put in the 4th raise had a 9k stack. no way in hell he's putting 9k in the middle with TT!! dude lay off the funny cigs. -Scott [/ QUOTE ] My god you're tight. It all depends on the opponent's table image. What if he donks around and get it in with low pairs (bcz those are nuts) and Ax and got his stack that way. That said with villain's image, I fold this everyday and I just call the 3bet for set/str8 draw value.
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