100/200 Commerce

[siegfriedandroy]

why not just bet the turn with, intending to call down, and then you won't be in this predicament?

[DividedSky2001]

To me if you think this guys a donkey I honestly don't understand the fold?? I mean yea he could have flopped broadway or had a higher boat but I think in this situation you have to pay him off.

Your still drawing live against him (assuming he doesn't have a boat yet) to a straight as well and a boat. I think a fold in this situation against a bad player isn't the best idea and why wouldn't he take a stab at the pot on the flop if it's checked to him? I don't get it.

Although in my opinion he can easily have A10, Q10 or Broadway its tough to lay down when you've got a bad player involved.

[New2NL]

Man, i flip flopped a dozen times in 15 minutes about this hand.

I think you check call. But folding is a close second. I only like calling for information reasons I am torn as to if we have the best hand here.

This is really a good hand. I am curious for results

[Voltaire]

It's hard to tell whether he has you beat or not, but you have to call.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

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100/200 Commerce
A guy who I think is a solid player at the time (turns out he's really good and not straight forward) opens the pot for a raise in middle position, uber donkey calls and it folds to me in the BB with Jc 10c, I call. Flop is 10,Q,A rainbow. I check PF raiser checks and uber donk checks. Turn 10 I check PF raiser checks and uber donk bets. I raise and PF raiser 3 bets before I can even get my chips in the pot. Uber donk mucks it's up to me, any thoughts?

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There are pretty much only a few hands he could have here. His flop play doesn't seem that great to me. The only way it would be GREAT is if he is bluffing here. That would be some super advanced stuff.

He has either KJ,AA,QQ,JJ,1010, Nothing

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i agree, i put him on 1010

[Bill King]

what suit is the turn?

[justin]

To me it all come down to the donk who bet out the turn. I don't understand at all the idea of calling his raise and b/f b/c river thats terrible. If he is making move on you bc your checkraising the donk then let him fire with air again on the river. Theres no way hes playing strong two pair hand this way so your check loses no value. If you had led the turn you wouldn't be in this situation but I understand you didn't want to go headsup with solid player and you wanted possibly "trap donk in middle". I think the problem with folding is the donk in the middle increases likelihood of a bluff so you have to call it down.