wsop 1500 PL bottom set

[greg44]

Basically every hand should be raising this flop, yet he doesn't??? That means you have to include more hands then JQ. KK is raising pre-flop and TT is probably raising as well to get everyone out (maybe not). You have a big hand be happy to get your money in imo.

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i just laughed out loud at tyler's post. Awesome.

[nath]

This thread is like 10 times better than it was when I went to bed last night.

[dfbuzzbeater]

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Again, God I wish I was 21.

Raise this PF, and then pot this on the flop. Or better yet, learn how to play PLHE.

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We've read the tone of your posts. You don't need to make it known that you're not 21. It's painfully obvious.

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Yes once you grow in maturity, you do things like tell a 16 year old kid to kill himself (after his whole world has just turned against him).

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Yea that was JJProdigy, and I was being honest. I really do think he should kill himself. I wouldn't bash him just for misplaying a hand tho.

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Wow, really? This is a bit off topic, but how you think that someone you have never met should kill themself?

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[Caldarooni]

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Again, God I wish I was 21.

Raise this PF, and then pot this on the flop. Or better yet, learn how to play PLHE.

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It would be awesome if you never posted again.

[Tyler Durden]

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Again, God I wish I was 21.

Raise this PF, and then pot this on the flop. Or better yet, learn how to play PLHE.

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It would be awesome if you never posted again.

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[nath]

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Again, God I wish I was 21.

Raise this PF, and then pot this on the flop. Or better yet, learn how to play PLHE.

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"Take it easy, Champ. Why don't you stop talking for a while."

[Jurollo]

Folks,
There isnt a huge difference between potting the flop and the t200. You are giving slightly better odds to a draw but the difference isnt a deal breaker. FWIW I pot the turn though as you dodged all the [censored] cards there and then you obviously call the raise. KT, K9 could do this, A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and T or 9 could limp in. Lots of options, I will agree that QJ is an obvious option here too. All that said these are huge minefields with fairly shallow structure, take your medicine, make the call and play cash games the rest of the night if he has you beat.
~Justin

[adanthar]

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Folks,
There isnt a huge difference between potting the flop and the t200. You are giving slightly better odds to a draw but the difference isnt a deal breaker.

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Nonononono. This is PL...the difference, and it's a huge one, is that it affects how much of a stack you can get in with a set on the turn.

[QandA201]

Ok, so you have to basically call 1100 to win a pot of 3200. That about right? 900 pre-turn +your 600 + his 600 + his push = the rest of your money, or 1100.

If that's correct, you are getting 3-1 for this call, and if he *only* ever has QJ you are at ~3.5-1 to win.

Given that he could possibly have KT or some other possibility, I think this is a marginal call, since when we add KT to his range you are then essentially even money against his range.

*Both pokerstove's below. first vs QJ, then with KT in the mix.

As a side note, I think this could potentially be TT for middle set.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

44 games 0.062 secs 709 games/sec

Board: Th Kh 3c 9d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 77.2727 % 77.27% 00.00% { QcJd }
Hand 2: 22.7273 % 22.73% 00.00% { 9h9s }


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,100 games 0.005 secs 220,000 games/sec

Board: Kh Th 9d 3c
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 52.7273 % 52.73% 00.00% { KTs, QJs, KTo, QJo }
Hand 2: 47.2727 % 47.27% 00.00% { 9h9s }