$1k/day at MGM 1-2 NL?

[Lopaka]

Even giving this claim consideration is absolutely ridiculous. It isn't even in the realm of possibility. The MGM game has a $200 cap. In that game 1k a week is possible for a very skilled player who can adapt to a 1/2NL game by playing 40hrs/week. 1k a day just isn't possible and anyone who thinks otherwise should just be discounted as a loon. It isn't even worth getting into the math to prove it.

[mikech]

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i really think this is low - how did you come up with 15/hr?

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This number has been quoted on here lots of times over the past few years in the SSNL and B&M Forums. It's essentially 2.5PT bb/hour. Which would be about 7.5Poker Tracker bb/100 hands. That is pretty large. (1bb = 2x big blind in NL)

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this is a low estimation. double-digit winrates at party 100nl or 200nl have been achieved by many players over long samples and it was certainly sustainable given game conditions back then (i don't know if the games have gotten tougher). add to that the fact that live games are typically much softer than the same stakes online, and i think that 15-20ptbb/100 is possible in a b&m 1-2 game.

that being said, his claim of 1k/day is horse manure. he's only getting dealt 25-30 hands/hour, so there simply aren't enough hrs in a day for him to make that amount.

[MicroBob]

If the game has a $200 cap on the buy-in then it definitely isn't possible (and it would be pretty close to impossible without the cap).


I agree that $1k/week is possible for a very skilled player.

This would be $25/hr X 40 hours though and I think 12.5BB/hr (close to 20BB/100 or more) is still pretty unlikely though.


But a table of mostly crazy-drunks (or just passively bad players) against a VERY skilled player who also happens to run decently for an entire yr or two, I think it actually is on the edge of possibility to make $1k/40hrs at this game.


But this is kind of like arguing about what kind of win-rate Phil Ivey would have on the PartyPoker .5/1 limit game.

[TylerD]

i played this game a lot when i stayed at the MGM for 6 nights a couple of weeks ago. The game *is* very soft but it is also populated by short stacked newbies. There's no way the av. MGM 1/2 player loses enough to support a $1K a day pro.

[ski]

almost EVERYONE who plays 1/2 NL at a casino thinks they are the best poker player in the world. He probbaly has played a total of 8 hours and made $600, so he figures if he was there all day he would make $1K.

People's egos are so dumb. I was at the casino the other night watching some sunglasses idiot at 1/2 go into the tank for 2 min before shoving allin as a bluff into my friends AA.

[RUFFNECK]

After being @ MGM and playing this game alot for the past two weeks, there is no way it is possible long-term.

I do believe you can break off a 1K in a day with the right conditions and cards. I never played long enough to get into that realm but I did have some 500+ sessions there in the 1/2.

Maybe the biggest hindrance I noticed in the MGM game in particular is when you do stack someone the rest of the table starts getting gun shy vs. you. At 1/2 blinds that is a whole lot of small pot stealing to get to that 1K mark.

P.S.- Now that I think about it, in that two weeks I never saw anyone rack up out of that game for a 1K+ profit.

[AKQJ10]

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I do believe you can break off a 1K in a day with the right conditions and cards.

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No doubt about that. Once I stopped tracking where I stood in the Foxwoods $1-2, counted my chip stacks a few moments later, and realized I was up $500 in 30 minutes. I'm sure all you need is two or three TPTK/overpair hands to stand up for $200+ pot, then a set or nut straight against another big stack, and you're up $1000.

[bav]

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P.S.- Now that I think about it, in that two weeks I never saw anyone rack up out of that game for a 1K+ profit.

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Then you didn't pay enough attention 'cause folks do that reasonably often--any weekend about 2am or 3am look around at all the NL1/2 tables and you'll often see one or two $1K+ stacks. But it's not a question of whether you can make $1000 in a day--lotsa people do that now and then. It's whether you can AVERAGE that day after day after day. No, you can't. Show me this guy's 1040 showing a $200k income from gambling and his daily records backing up that it came from NL1/2 at MGM and I'll become a believer.

[mikech]

here's a 7k stack at 200capped nl:

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Ok boys, the pic says it all. Last night's drunken game witht he Danes at the Venetian, poster Trix ran up a HUGE Fkn' STACK:

Trix Stage 1:



1 hour later:



Red $5 chips for you non-live noobs, each small stack is $100.

Trix with StinkyPete:



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[Mcot]

Some kid had like 9k on the table 100max nl at turning stone. He only had been playing for 36 hours I think.

1k per day is quite possible, perhaps even for a few weeks / months if your playing good running well and u win a few HUGE pots to average out the days where u dont make as much.

There are stories about some of the name pros now adays playing back 3-4 yrs ago when poker first started to get big and having 40 + days at the casino showing a profit. Basically never having a loosing day.

He said he makes 1k a day but he didnt say how many days that was over. Its definatly possible though for like a month stright though.