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10-04-2007, 11:52 AM
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As for the merits, you all know my view on health care. If grandstanding and blowharding results in more accessible health care, I'm all for it. [/ QUOTE ] not caring who pays for it or who runs it? Iron, have you ever set foot in a VA hospital? 
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10-04-2007, 02:20 PM
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The Dems actually have a shot at overriding this veto. It passed the Senate with a veto-proof majority and they need 15 more GOP votes in the House (they have 40) to override. As for the merits, you all know my view on health care. If grandstanding and blowharding results in more accessible health care, I'm all for it. [/ QUOTE ] Why is accessible health care tied to health insurance? The main beneficiary seems to be health insurance companies, not children. The government should guarantee fair pricing of services to all citizens. Health insurance is a protection racket in the US. Many healthy Americans don't want or need health insurance.
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10-04-2007, 06:36 PM
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Well you (healthy American) may think you don't need it until the next drunk runs a red and it's game over for you. Just because you're currently healthy doesn't make a bit of difference five minutes in the future.
That said, I agree it is a protection racket and frankly if I'm going to be forced into paying for insurance (i.e. car insurance), I don't think companies should be making money off of me. Sure there may be some efficiencies if GEICO is competing against Allstate and State Farm but how much "competition" is really going on? Does anyone think it's anything unlike three people trying to divide up a swimming pool full of cash? And it's not like the insurance companies are being forced to cover us in return. They can drop us whenever they want.
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10-04-2007, 07:09 PM
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Well you (healthy American) may think you don't need it until the next drunk runs a red and it's game over for you. Just because you're currently healthy doesn't make a bit of difference five minutes in the future. That said, I agree it is a protection racket and frankly if I'm going to be forced into paying for insurance (i.e. car insurance), I don't think companies should be making money off of me. Sure there may be some efficiencies if GEICO is competing against Allstate and State Farm but how much "competition" is really going on? Does anyone think it's anything unlike three people trying to divide up a swimming pool full of cash? And it's not like the insurance companies are being forced to cover us in return. They can drop us whenever they want. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry, but I must tell you this. You are completely confused. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. natedogg
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10-04-2007, 07:39 PM
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And it's not like the insurance companies are being forced to cover us in return. They can drop us whenever they want. [/ QUOTE ] That's car insurance. Never said I was against car insurance. Still millions drive without this insurance.
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10-04-2007, 08:01 PM
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This is just an extension of medicaid to some middle class taxpayers more or less. Cap is actually at 61,000+ without a waiver. [/ QUOTE ] I don't care what it is an extension of! Why can't people pay for there own freaking kids for once? Did they not choose to have the kid? Seems they need to pay for there life choices. McDonalds is hiring. Why am I suffering because some horny morons need cough medicine for the baby? Why are we encouraging people to have children they can't pay for? If we are going to give money foolishly to these imbeciles, then why does the government need to take the money first, and stamp ever dollar into .50 c, and then give it back? Nothing about this idea makes any sense morally or economically. GOOD VETO DUBYA !! NOW DO ABOUT 100 MORE.
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10-04-2007, 09:17 PM
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[ QUOTE ] This is just an extension of medicaid to some middle class taxpayers more or less. Cap is actually at 61,000+ without a waiver. [/ QUOTE ] I don't care what it is an extension of! Why can't people pay for there own freaking kids for once? Did they not choose to have the kid? Seems they need to pay for there life choices. McDonalds is hiring. Why am I suffering because some horny morons need cough medicine for the baby? Why are we encouraging people to have children they can't pay for? If we are going to give money foolishly to these imbeciles, then why does the government need to take the money first, and stamp ever dollar into .50 c, and then give it back? Nothing about this idea makes any sense morally or economically. GOOD VETO DUBYA !! NOW DO ABOUT 100 MORE. [/ QUOTE ] QFT
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