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Old 09-20-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shoving this ?

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616,429,440 games 0.005 secs 123,285,888,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.870% 31.60% 00.27% 194775132 1683630.00 { 54s }
Hand 1: 68.130% 67.86% 00.27% 418287048 1683630.00 { 88+, AJs+, AJo+ }


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1,561,621,248 games 0.005 secs 312,324,249,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.230% 30.83% 00.40% 481480284 6212028.00 { KJo }
Hand 1: 68.770% 68.37% 00.40% 1067716908 6212028.00 { 88+, AJs+, AJo+ }

Even in a generous range, KJo is far from being far better. With the tighter range, 56s is significantly better.

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These are far from the numbers that I get using sit 'n go power tools. I have SngPT set to calculate cEV, and having stacks starting with hero utg with 55k and then 110k, 45k, 135k, 80k, 95k and blinds set at 3k/6k with a 300 chip ante. Hero shoving utg with KJo against calling ranges of JJ+ & AK gives us a shove of +47.5%EV (or +T6412) while pushing 65s gives us +46.7%EV (or +T6308). With calling ranges of 88+ & AJ+ and pushing KJo we get a +23.8%EV (or +T3218) and pushing 65s is +16.7%EV (or +T2259).

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Not sure how your tool is calculating cev, but they contradict pokerstove's equity values. FWIW, I did the equity calculations by hand and confirmed pokerstove's results.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Should I be shoving this ?

I put a question up in the probability forum to help with the $EV calculation, but haven't gotten any replies yet: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12155329
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