Favorite Poker Room in Vegas?

[fishyak]

Just remember, for every suckout there are four players chasing you down on TPTK hands that miss and you rake it in. Just Sun. I flopped a straight, and lost. I flopped a flush, a lost to the nut flush when the 4th of the suit hit the board on the river. I went almost 3 hours without winning a single hand, and was up $55 for the session. Thank GOD for people staying in when any idiot could figure I was way ahead.

[gmcarroll33]

No not what I'm saying. Just don't like overly loose action that can break me in a heartbeat with hands like that. But this is for another forum I'm sure.

[EWillers]

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Also I'm really looking for the won that has the least amount of No Fold Em Hold Em. MGM was full of that crap. Drove me nuts last time.

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Just keep moving up in limits until they respect your raises. That's the won game you wanna be in. You'll do fine then.

[mikech]

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I went to Vegas for the first time when I was 21 and I got schooled basically. Played like a school girl, just because of the stakes. Needless to say, 2 years later It's night and day betweeen the player I was then, and am now.

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I'm really looking for the won that has the least amount of No Fold Em Hold Em. MGM was full of that crap. Drove me nuts last time.

when I have KK, I don't like any ace calling me all the time, and flush draws always calling all the way to the river.

Just don't like overly loose action that can break me in a heartbeat with hands like that.

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it's not night and day. it's still night for you.

[justJeff]

I think fishyak said it very well. In loose games you're bound to suffer some bad beats. If you play it properly you'll come out ahead in the long run though. Much like the edge the casino's enjoy on most games, it isn't an "if", it's a mathmatical certainty. Playing properly you'll still bet and lose some times, but if the pot warranted it, you still did the right thing. If someone offered to pay you $1.05 on your $1 bet that heads would come up on a coin toss would you take the action? You'd be crazy not to, right? Would the coin sometimes come up tails, costing you $1? Say in toss one you win the $1.05, and then three tosses in a row it comes up tails and you loose $3. Would you be crazy to keep playing in light of your losses, or would you be crazy to stop playing? Does the fact that you lost more tosses than you won right off the bat make the person that offered you those odds any less crazy?

[jackdaniels]

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I think fishyak said it very well. In loose games you're bound to suffer some bad beats. If you play it properly you'll come out ahead in the long run though. Much like the edge the casino's enjoy on most games, it isn't an "if", it's a mathmatical certainty. Playing properly you'll still bet and lose some times, but if the pot warranted it, you still did the right thing. If someone offered to pay you $1.05 on your $1 bet that heads would come up on a coin toss would you take the action? You'd be crazy not to, right? Would the coin sometimes come up tails, costing you $1? Say in toss one you win the $1.05, and then three tosses in a row it comes up tails and you loose $3. Would you be crazy to keep playing in light of your losses, or would you be crazy to stop playing? Does the fact that you lost more tosses than you won right off the bat make the person that offered you those odds any less crazy?

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Excellent post and exactly the same example I give friends and family if ever asked about gambling, variance and the like.

[bob2007]

I was just there over the Thanksgiving Weekend. This'll be a semi trip report.

Caesars: played 60 player tournement, 60 dollar rebuy. They screwed up my registration, I wanted in on the Sit and Go. I asked 3 people how to get in, they sent me paying at the desk. I somehow got into the multi. Came 10th, but 9 pay. Acted out of turn, cost me the tournement.

Venetian: Best room to play b/c of decor and lack of cigarette smoking smells from the outside. Only played 2/4 and 4/8 games there. I was too chicken to play higher stakes because of the first 2 nights of losing small amounts in NL and the tournement. I'm used to playing 20/40, up to 50/100 online shorthanded. So, I was kinda sick of myself sitting in with tourists and newbies, taking their money while half asleep at 2 a.m. in the morning.

2/4, 4/8 games: pretty much the same type of competition.
Passive players as a whole, even the slightly better players are passive. You have your tourists, you have the decent players who think they're good but aren't IMO (angry about suckouts, don't bet rivers with top pair, buyins of 25 blinds on a 4/8 table, like to talk about pot odds and other bs on the table).

Venetian dealers: a few were pretty crappy. 1 guy said raise to 12, I count chips and reraise. I throw my chips in. Guy next to me says its not my turn. Already we were on the next round. I yell and say he said raise, she's like no he calls to 12 , b/c he was waiting for his chips. Old guy yells back at me and says he said raise. Another guy backs me up that wasn't in the hand. Whatever, I say I'll let it go when the dealer claims it was her fault and that I probably heard her say, "raise to 12?". Whatever, I figure I don't want to have a bad image anyway and I'd take their money sooner or later.

2. Another dealer, deals the button first. Then everyone looks at their cards, guy at teh button (fish) makes it a big deal. Asks for redeal. Dealer decides to keep playing, b/c the cards are random anyway. Player persists, dealer isn't sure what to do. He then proceeds to redeal. MAKE A [censored] DECISION!!!.

3. One dealer's English was so horrible, I didn't know that he was saying four vs. Fold.

Do dealer's make such mistakes at other cardrooms? This I don't know.

Harrah's: Played 1/2 NL, not my game, I've played cash NL a total of maybe 10 times in the last year. Players were pretty soft, but I didn't have any hands. Lost 50 bucks 2 hours.

Wynn(the hottest cocktail waitresses ever), Caesars and MGM are my favorites. The easiest place to win though is definitely MGM. Easy money.

[govman6767]

El Cortez

1) They run a stud game

2) Smoking

3) You can play with the owner

4) It's not borgataiteish

[Hoss1193]

On my one trip to Vegas a bit earlier this year:

I found the 4/8 LHE games at Wynn and Venetian extremely soft, much easier than my local game here in WA. Wynn & Bellagio 8/16 LHE was a bit tougher, but still eminently profitable. I have no reason to think that the 1/2 & 2/5 NL games at these places would be any different.

Decor/atmosphere wise, I think I'd rank, in order, Wynn-Venetian-Bellagio. I liked all three a lot, and would recommend stopping by each of them at least once (Wynn earned my "repeat visit" toward the end of the trip).

I know a lot of folks sing the praises of MGM...I dunno, the place just didn't do much for me. Probably because it was one of the very few losing sessions I experienced while in town, although the 4/8 game was very soft there as well.

Finally, off the beaten track, the little Monte Carlo cardroom comes recommended. Small; it was 7 or 8 tables. But a very cozy atmosphere. Just a pleasant place to play. Strictly small stakes; only limit game is 2/4 LHE. They also have a 1/2 NL game - if it's HALF as soft as their 2/4, then you don't want to pass this place up.

Another thing worth mentioning about the MC is that on Thur night they spread a 4/8 limit H.O.S.E. game which is fun, and a welcome change of pace.