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Old 10-04-2007, 07:10 AM
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Sometimes I get the feeling that the drafters of the constitution didn't know what greenhouse gasses were.

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Luckily, we have this whole amendment process that makes things like that irrelevant.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:12 AM
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Really, why does anyone object to research on this matter?

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Nobody opposes research on this matter. They oppose government funding of it, and for good reason. It's not authorized by the constitution.

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Not to mention that it's stealing.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:37 AM
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Is hope for a plan > no hope for a plan?

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No not when the plan has a 0% chance of doing anything about the problem (if a problem that something can be done about even exists) and yet will increase the burden of government onto everyone.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:58 AM
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Beyond money for alternative energy research and subsidies, I actually don't know. I imagine there's more depending on the individual politician. I don't think ratifying Kyoto would be a policy priority for Hillary or Obama.

A couple guesses: a carbon tax designed to make burning fossil fuels and a cap & trade system separate from Kyoto for CO2. I don't think a majority of Dems support either proposal.

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So in reality the Democrats don't have a plan for stopping global warming. No reason to vote for Democrats based on that issue. Put another way, if global warming is key issue for you, if you vote for a Democrat you're only hoping that they come up with a plan. Your vote is based in part at least on faith.

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The Dems may or may not do something significant about global warming but the GOP almost certainly will not.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:25 AM
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I don't think ratifying Kyoto would be a policy priority for Hillary or Obama.

Nor should it be for the US. Kyoto should be scrapped, period.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:59 PM
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Beyond money for alternative energy research and subsidies, I actually don't know. I imagine there's more depending on the individual politician. I don't think ratifying Kyoto would be a policy priority for Hillary or Obama.

A couple guesses: a carbon tax designed to make burning fossil fuels and a cap & trade system separate from Kyoto for CO2. I don't think a majority of Dems support either proposal.

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So in reality the Democrats don't have a plan for stopping global warming. No reason to vote for Democrats based on that issue. Put another way, if global warming is key issue for you, if you vote for a Democrat you're only hoping that they come up with a plan. Your vote is based in part at least on faith.

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The Dems may or may not do something significant about global warming but the GOP almost certainly will not.

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since the Dem solution will be their one trick pony...tax something...this is good reason to vote GOP
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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Beyond money for alternative energy research and subsidies, I actually don't know. I imagine there's more depending on the individual politician. I don't think ratifying Kyoto would be a policy priority for Hillary or Obama.

A couple guesses: a carbon tax designed to make burning fossil fuels and a cap & trade system separate from Kyoto for CO2. I don't think a majority of Dems support either proposal.

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So in reality the Democrats don't have a plan for stopping global warming. No reason to vote for Democrats based on that issue. Put another way, if global warming is key issue for you, if you vote for a Democrat you're only hoping that they come up with a plan. Your vote is based in part at least on faith.

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The Dems may or may not do something significant about global warming but the GOP almost certainly will not.

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since the Dem solution will be their one trick pony...tax something...this is good reason to vote GOP

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Environmental taxes balanced by reductions in other areas to remain revenue-neutral would be a pretty decent first step against global warming.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:14 PM
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I suspect the Dems would be quicker to do something dumb like jacking up the CAFE standards than something smart like a carbon tax.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:14 PM
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I forgot about CAFE. The Dems are in favor of increasing CAFE standards.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:18 PM
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I forgot about CAFE. The Dems are in favor of increasing CAFE standards.

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