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#21
10-22-2007, 01:23 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
yea any conversation without Montana in it is invalid
it is interesting though to compare what brady has done in the past 5 years with no support, to what hes doing now with good support. 
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10-22-2007, 01:33 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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[ QUOTE ] I won't rank him against Unitas and other old timers that I never saw play, but I think hes the best football player I've ever seen. Rice would be #2. LT would be #3. Manning might be in the next few fwiw. [/ QUOTE ] Putting manning outside of your top 3 of this era is pretty absurd IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, it's absurd to think of LT and Jerry Rice as great players on par or better than manning at this point. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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10-22-2007, 01:35 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
Washington Redskins coach Joe Gibbs developed the two tight end offense and the position of h-back to prevent Taylor from blitzing into the backfield unhindered.[41][72] As Gibbs stated, "[w]e had to try in some way have a special game plan just for Lawrence Taylor. Now you didn't do that very often in this league but I think he's one person that we learned the lesson the hard way. We lost ball games."[41] His skills at outside linebacker forced other coaches to retool their offensive schemes to manage his impact. In the late 70's and early 80's, a blitzing linebacker was almost always picked up by a running back. However, these players were usually no match for Taylor.[73] The tactic employed by Bill Walsh in the 1982 playoffs, namely of employing an offensive guard to block Taylor, began to be copied around the league. This move, however, left a hole in the offensive protection that a middle linebacker could exploit. Later, Walsh and other coaches began using offensive left tackles to block Taylor. Although Taylor made adjustments to his game to remain dominant, it soon became common in the NFL for offensive linemen to pick up blitzing linebackers, such as Taylor. In addition to the changes in offensive schemes Taylor influenced, he also introduced new defensive techniques to the game such as chopping the ball out of the quarterback's hands rather than tackling him.[68]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_taylor
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#24
10-22-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I won't rank him against Unitas and other old timers that I never saw play, but I think hes the best football player I've ever seen. Rice would be #2. LT would be #3. Manning might be in the next few fwiw. [/ QUOTE ] Putting manning outside of your top 3 of this era is pretty absurd IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, it's absurd to think of LT and Jerry Rice as great players on par or better than manning at this point. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with everything but the confused smiley.
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#25
10-22-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
Taylor was so sick and every blocking scheme I have ever learned is because of his influence on the game. Thanks for that Assani, great read, not sure why I didn't think of looking at wiki for that.
Actually, thinking about blocking assignments taught today it makes all the sense in the world how this stuff trickled down to college level. The whole system is based on area commitment and especially if a LB shows up, which is exactly what it says there. Makes a lot of sense in hindsight.
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10-22-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I won't rank him against Unitas and other old timers that I never saw play, but I think hes the best football player I've ever seen. Rice would be #2. LT would be #3. Manning might be in the next few fwiw. [/ QUOTE ] Putting manning outside of your top 3 of this era is pretty absurd IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, it's absurd to think of LT and Jerry Rice as great players on par or better than manning at this point. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with everything but the confused smiley. [/ QUOTE ] You are such a homer. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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10-22-2007, 01:41 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I won't rank him against Unitas and other old timers that I never saw play, but I think hes the best football player I've ever seen. Rice would be #2. LT would be #3. Manning might be in the next few fwiw. [/ QUOTE ] Putting manning outside of your top 3 of this era is pretty absurd IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, it's absurd to think of LT and Jerry Rice as great players on par or better than manning at this point. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with everything but the confused smiley. [/ QUOTE ] You are such a homer. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I agree with everything but the smirking smiley.
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10-22-2007, 02:31 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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Better than Neil Lomax, not quite as good as Timm Rosenbach. [/ QUOTE ]
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10-22-2007, 02:39 AM
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Re: where do you think brady will stand among the all time greats?
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I won't rank him against Unitas and other old timers that I never saw play, but I think hes the best football player I've ever seen. Rice would be #2. LT would be #3. Manning might be in the next few fwiw. [/ QUOTE ] I like how the first comment in the post is "I don't want to rank him against players I have ever seen." Than you proceed to mention Lawrence Taylor who retired when you were 11.
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