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Old 03-24-2007, 04:19 PM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default metagame question kinda

i don't knwo what the word for it is, but any

CO raises, SB cold calls, i call K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Flop is 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checks to CO, SB calls, i c/r the field both call

turn blank

I bet, CO calls, SB folds

river blank

Do any types of players ever fold AQ? I said nobody does.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I don't like to know what the blanks were in general. I think people can fold A9/A8/AK/AQ pretty often depending on opponent.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I agree, i think i fire... I also strongly consider a 3bet preflop...
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

So you fold to a river bet with AQ? So if I posted

"Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero raises, SB calls, bb call

Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked to hero who bets, Sb call, BB c/r's, I call Sb calls

Turn Blank

BB bets, I call, SB fold

River Blank

BB Bets, I..."

You wouldn't say "as played call river"?
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Old 03-26-2007, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

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So you fold to a river bet with AQ? So if I posted

"Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero raises, SB calls, bb call

Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked to hero who bets, Sb call, BB c/r's, I call Sb calls

Turn Blank

BB bets, I call, SB fold

River Blank

BB Bets, I..."

You wouldn't say "as played call river"?

[/ QUOTE ]

I fold this plenty. Very read based.
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Old 03-26-2007, 05:50 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I also fold AQ most of the time here. Pot protected flop c/r + turn bet after both players call + river bet after I call = you beat me way too much to call with just ace high on this board. I think the flop and turn action is the most important factor in the river play. When he bets after you both call his flop check raise, he is rarely bluffing. I don't even know about calling the turn bet there with AQ in all honesty.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

Depends what the limits are, as I imagine the lower limit TAGs are more apt to say "What can I beat?" and completely ignore all the missed draws that they can beat. But I think folding out AQ is pretty rare here. My guess is you're realistically trying to fold out A9/A8 or KQ or keep K9/Q9 from bluffing you off the hand if you bet. Not sure that makes a bet profitable though.

BTW, did you consider 3betting preflop here? I think I like to because it gives me a chance to bet/3bet Kxx and Qxx flops that inevitably hit someone's KJ/QJ/88 type hands and they always call down from there.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

"BTW, did you consider 3betting preflop here"

yes
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

I think if I wasn't following up on the river, I probably wouldn't bet the turn.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: metagame question kinda

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I think if I wasn't following up on the river, I probably wouldn't bet the turn.

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So you would play the hand how then? Sorry I'm curious
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