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#21
08-13-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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[ QUOTE ] my image is 23/17 and not overly aggro [/ QUOTE ] this has no bearing on anything here? if this hand was me i'd shove all the time cause i AM overly aggro pre, but i'm not ama, and his read indicates there's more to shoving than seeing TPTK. 
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#22
08-13-2007, 11:49 AM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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from OP [ QUOTE ] my image is 23/17 and not overly aggro [/ QUOTE ] this has no bearing on anything here? if this hand was me i'd shove all the time cause i AM overly aggro pre, but i'm not ama, and his read indicates there's more to shoving than seeing TPTK. [/ QUOTE ] I'm 20/12/1, and this hand happened literally 2 minutes ago versus a 17/10/2. I really considered folding for a second - I mean he has to have 4x/JJ/QQ/KK/AA here right? I'm soooo tight and that board is riciculously dry, how could he get out of line with less? Plus it's not like I'm folding anything, this can't be a bluff: Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) Hero (SB): $198.00 BB: $200.00 UTG: $206.00 CO: $220.75 BTN: $505.13 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00 Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00 Turn: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $180.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $98.00 Uncalled bet of $2.00 returned to BB River: ($396) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $396.00 ($2.50 Rake) BB had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Jacks) and LOST (-$198.00) Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Queens) and WON (+$195.50)
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#23
08-13-2007, 11:54 AM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
Are you comparing these hands or just saying nits dont always have the nuts? cus i dont see how this is anything like TPTK
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#25
08-13-2007, 11:57 AM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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Are you comparing these hands or just saying nits dont always have the nuts? cus i dont see how this is anything like TPTK [/ QUOTE ] Sorry I'm 9 tabling lol, meant to write a point at the end of that. Point is: ****HOW THE FLYING [censored]**** could a 17/10/2 think that TPTK has any value in that spot, versus another nit and given my ridiculously strong line. Answer: nitty does not equal sane, nitty does not equal smart, nitty does not equal tight post.
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#27
08-13-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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[ QUOTE ] from OP [ QUOTE ] my image is 23/17 and not overly aggro [/ QUOTE ] this has no bearing on anything here? if this hand was me i'd shove all the time cause i AM overly aggro pre, but i'm not ama, and his read indicates there's more to shoving than seeing TPTK. [/ QUOTE ] I'm 20/12/1, and this hand happened literally 2 minutes ago versus a 17/10/2. I really considered folding for a second - I mean he has to have 4x/JJ/QQ/KK/AA here right? I'm soooo tight and that board is riciculously dry, how could he get out of line with less? Plus it's not like I'm folding anything, this can't be a bluff: Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) Hero (SB): $198.00 BB: $200.00 UTG: $206.00 CO: $220.75 BTN: $505.13 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00 Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00 Turn: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $180.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $98.00 Uncalled bet of $2.00 returned to BB River: ($396) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $396.00 ($2.50 Rake) BB had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Jacks) and LOST (-$198.00) Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Queens) and WON (+$195.50) [/ QUOTE ] I can see that SSNL truly is a great place for a player new to 100nl to learn unfamiliar concepts from those more advanced in skill. I feel like I'm even dumber than I was before I posted this. Its cool tho tufat explained it to me. You guys can go back to circle jerking one another now. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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#28
08-13-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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[ QUOTE ] I'm 20/12/1 [/ QUOTE ] lololol [/ QUOTE ] Every single table I am playing has at least one 65+VPIP station on it. LAG = death, I don't give a [censored] what anyone on this forum says anymore. Datamine & Table select as diligently I do, then tell me how profitable your marginal opens are compared to limping, when they stack off with TPMK in a limped pot anyway. Also why should I bet with a mid-strength hand if some maniac playing 60% of his hands will bet for me if checked to? So yes, I limp and I call down light, and I don't bet OOP into stations. Sue me.
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#29
08-13-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] from OP [ QUOTE ] my image is 23/17 and not overly aggro [/ QUOTE ] this has no bearing on anything here? if this hand was me i'd shove all the time cause i AM overly aggro pre, but i'm not ama, and his read indicates there's more to shoving than seeing TPTK. [/ QUOTE ] I'm 20/12/1, and this hand happened literally 2 minutes ago versus a 17/10/2. I really considered folding for a second - I mean he has to have 4x/JJ/QQ/KK/AA here right? I'm soooo tight and that board is riciculously dry, how could he get out of line with less? Plus it's not like I'm folding anything, this can't be a bluff: Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) Hero (SB): $198.00 BB: $200.00 UTG: $206.00 CO: $220.75 BTN: $505.13 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00 Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00 Turn: ($40) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $180.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $98.00 Uncalled bet of $2.00 returned to BB River: ($396) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $396.00 ($2.50 Rake) BB had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Jacks) and LOST (-$198.00) Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Queens) and WON (+$195.50) [/ QUOTE ] I can see that SSNL truly is a great place for a player new to 100nl to learn unfamiliar concepts from those more advanced in skill. I feel like I'm even dumber than I was before I posted this. Its cool tho tufat explained it to me. You guys can go back to circle jerking one another now. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] [censored] you. I made a simple point and used a simple example. EDIT: If your hand reading is sooo superior then why the [censored] are you even posting this??? Who's circle-jerking here exactly?
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