Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Full Ring
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-13-2007, 02:53 AM
Eternal Eternal is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 285
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

[ QUOTE ]


From memory, very few (if any) of the most profitable players have such a high PFR% (at least at $1/$2- I'm not so familiar with $2/$4.)

(Also, most of the players that do have a high PFR% are losing players.)



[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry but I totally disagree with this.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-13-2007, 02:57 AM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: DERB of Micro/Small stakes
Posts: 1,383
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

Renton, didn't you make a post about how everytime you got over 15% vpip you started spewing alot? Maybe tone down a bit?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:35 AM
Awesemo Awesemo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Saint Louis
Posts: 253
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

I'm kinda skeptical that raising 9-10% from ep is profitable. That means you are going to be playing many marginal hands out of position.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:44 AM
Acevader Acevader is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 614
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

Could your bet sizing be a problem? You're selective with your hands and aggressive with then especially with position. You showdown approximately the correct proportion of them and win more than your fair share of showdowns and yet are still losing money. This tell me that you man be winning small showdowns pots and losing massive ones as well as losing money in non-showdown pots.

To put it in perspective I'm nicely up over the last 25k hands with a win$@SD rate of 50.16%. Something to consider, are you perhaps losing too much value when you have a good hand or maybe putting too much into the pot then folding?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:51 AM
Smart Money Smart Money is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 256
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


From memory, very few (if any) of the most profitable players have such a high PFR% (at least at $1/$2- I'm not so familiar with $2/$4.)

(Also, most of the players that do have a high PFR% are losing players.)



[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry but I totally disagree with this.

[/ QUOTE ]


These are the Top 20 earners from the last 800k hands that I've played.

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:54 AM
TheProdigy TheProdigy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BLOG INSIDE
Posts: 3,254
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

Wait,

You play 19/5.5 and this is how much you have won?


Wow this is amazing. I am going to have to re-evaluate everything lol.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:57 AM
rdrr rdrr is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Posts: 626
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

[ QUOTE ]
Wait,

You play 19/5.5 and this is how much you have won?


Wow this is amazing. I am going to have to re-evaluate everything lol.

[/ QUOTE ]
QFT... whoa...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-13-2007, 04:09 AM
Smart Money Smart Money is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 256
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

[ QUOTE ]
Wait,

You play 19/5.5 and this is how much you have won?


Wow this is amazing. I am going to have to re-evaluate everything lol.

[/ QUOTE ]


Post-flop is where you make your money at full-ring.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-13-2007, 03:55 AM
Acevader Acevader is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 614
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

Woot, I've finally managed to sneak into someone list [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-13-2007, 06:13 AM
NT=TOOLBOX NT=TOOLBOX is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DLM\'s good friend
Posts: 133
Default Re: anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


From memory, very few (if any) of the most profitable players have such a high PFR% (at least at $1/$2- I'm not so familiar with $2/$4.)

(Also, most of the players that do have a high PFR% are losing players.)



[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry but I totally disagree with this.

[/ QUOTE ]


These are the Top 20 earners from the last 800k hands that I've played.



[/ QUOTE ]

Plz dont post this. All of 2p2 knows its impossible to be a good player unless you play a 20/10 game ldo fwiw imo diagf. Your going to disturb group think and throw off the tides so that no right answer shall ever be availible.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.