WPT should be sued

[olivert]

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No clue if this is true, but...


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So, she goes to the bathroom, cleans up and then comes back to play.

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Sounds like she should be prosecuted.

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Again, as J.J. Liu's agent, I ask the 2+2 audience to please refrain from posting insensitive remarks or taking cheap shots at J.J., Dan Alspach, or myself in order to justify your existence.

At this time, I cannot comment on the specifics of the situation beyond what was already reported by the media.

Please respect J.J. and Dan's need for privacy. Thank you very much.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group, LLC
otmgmt@otmgmt.com

[PokerBob]

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JJ Liu is not the first player to have to make a decision to either play or sacrifice a final table appearance because of a potential medical condition.

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risking you health is one thing, risking the health of your child is another. how can you not realize that?

[rsigley]

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No clue if this is true, but...


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So, she goes to the bathroom, cleans up and then comes back to play.

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Sounds like she should be prosecuted.

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Again, as J.J. Liu's agent, I ask the 2+2 audience to please refrain from posting insensitive remarks or taking cheap shots at J.J., Dan Alspach, or myself in order to justify your existence.

At this time, I cannot comment on the specifics of the situation beyond what was already reported by the media.

Please respect J.J. and Dan's need for privacy. Thank you very much.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group, LLC
otmgmt@otmgmt.com

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its not ok for people to take cheap shots but its ok for you to try and ruin some NCAA kids life so you can make a mark on the world of poker journalism?

[Five-Star]

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If she had given birth at the final table, would the baby be dealt in?

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no, probably disqualified, the one player per hand rule

[olivert]

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No clue if this is true, but...


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So, she goes to the bathroom, cleans up and then comes back to play.

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Sounds like she should be prosecuted.

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Again, as J.J. Liu's agent, I ask the 2+2 audience to please refrain from posting insensitive remarks or taking cheap shots at J.J., Dan Alspach, or myself in order to justify your existence.

At this time, I cannot comment on the specifics of the situation beyond what was already reported by the media.

Please respect J.J. and Dan's need for privacy. Thank you very much.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group, LLC
otmgmt@otmgmt.com

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its not ok for people to take cheap shots but its ok for you to try and ruin some NCAA kids life so you can make a mark on the world of poker journalism?

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I sound like a broken record, but I did NOT ruin a kid's life. That was never my intent. I don't know how many times I have to repeat posting what is below in order to get it through people's heads.

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I got myself involved in the Robert Neary case (2006 Aussie Millions runner-up and PartyPoker satellite qualifier who was on a golf scholarship at Sonoma State University in Northern California) because I felt that PartyPoker exploited Neary by forcing Neary to break an NCAA rule regarding endorsements by making Neary wear a PartyPoker logo, WITHOUT compensating Neary, in order for Neary to play the Aussie Millions.

(The FSN TV post-production unit was fully aware of the case as well during post-production and FSN has to tap dance around the entire case carefully in order to stay out of trouble with the NCAA.)

PartyPoker changed its logo rule for satellite qualifiers in time for the 2006 WSOP, as PartyPoker chose to follow PokerStars by removing the cost of the hotel room from the packages and offering a hotel room at PartyPoker's expense to its satellite qualifiers who agree to wear the PartyPoker.NET logo.

Ultimately, the PartyPoker satellite qualifiers at the 2006 WSOP benefitted because I got involved in the Robert Neary case.

As for Neary, the NCAA slapped him on the wrist by making him sit out one weekend tournament at the start of the 2006 golf season. Neary, Sonoma State golf coach Val Verhunce, and Sonoma State athletic director Bill Fusco were satisfied with the way NCAA handled the case. I have corresponded with both Verhunce and Fusco afterward and they both understood WHY I chose the particular course of action and they both understood that hundreds of PartyPoker WSOP qualifiers benefitted as a result.

The only "bad guy" in the Robert Neary case was PartyPoker, which had to clean up its act after the NCAA and I (with assists from former PokerPages editor Amy Calistri and Santa Rosa Press Democrat newspaper sports reporter Eric Branch and sports editor Jim Barger) got involved.

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Regardless of which side of the industry I am on (I was a freelance poker writer before I crossed over to the "dark side" by becoming a player agent last October), I was taught a long time ago by fellow WVBR-FM (Ithaca, NY) alumnus and current MSNBC personality Keith Olbermann to "take you job seriously, but not to take yourself too seriously".

I had a job to do when I got involved in the Neary case, and I now have a different job to do after J.J. and Dan hired me to be J.J.'s agent last October. Ultimately, I still have to do my job and take my job seriously, no matter what the job is. Having been an independent contractor/freelancer thoughout much of my adult life, I know that I am only as good as my last assignment.

[Zetack]

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No clue if this is true, but...


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So, she goes to the bathroom, cleans up and then comes back to play.

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Sounds like she should be prosecuted.

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Again, as J.J. Liu's agent, I ask the 2+2 audience to please refrain from posting insensitive remarks or taking cheap shots at J.J., Dan Alspach, or myself in order to justify your existence.

At this time, I cannot comment on the specifics of the situation beyond what was already reported by the media.

Please respect J.J. and Dan's need for privacy. Thank you very much.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group, LLC
otmgmt@otmgmt.com

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So as long as we don't do it to justify our existence, you're all in favor of us taking as many cheap shots as we want?

Oh, wait, I'm not sure this even applies to me...what makes one part of the 2+2 audience? I think I'm a participant..

[RayPowers]

I think I am most weirded out by the fact that J.J. Liu, whom I have never heard of before ever, has an agent.

Ray

[MsGluck]

I already knew JJ was pregnant before Bay 101, Maya called me and told me she was due around the same time as I am. This thread was so horrible for me to read, very sad. I hope JJ and the baby are ok.

I made a choice to not play poker once I found out I was pregnant, i don't think it is healthy. We are all poker players here, we know what kind of stress comes along with bad beats (even if you're winning), not eating correctly, sitting for very long periods of time, or if you play live... a ill-infested casino. I try not to judge anyone else, but it's hard not to have opinions.

For all you guys here that do not know, there are greater risks in pregnancy over the age of 35. I'm not sure but I believe JJ is over 35, which means she required more precautions during her pregnancy than I do. Playing tournament poker is very unhealthy for a pregnancy, long hours and short breaks, and the occasional stress. I think JJ is a great poker player and very sweet, but there are endless tournaments to play in her future, why play now?



The other night Chau was talking about a woman playing very hight limit poker at the LA Poker Classic, she was 9 months pregnant, up for two days straight and not eating. Turns out I know who he is talking about. He said he was so sickened by her actions that he wanted to bust her so bad just so she would go home, but she pulled out more money.

He also said four days after she delivered the baby, he saw her playing poker again. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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I think I am most weirded out by the fact that J.J. Liu, whom I have never heard of before ever, has an agent.

Ray

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J.J. Liu won WPT Ladies Night IV, is #4 all time among females in career tournament poker earnings (behind Kathy Liebert, Annie Duke, and Jennifer Harman), and speaks Mandarin Chinese fluently (a skill which will be in demand in the poker world in 2009 as the Texas Hold'em phenomenon moves to East and Southeast Asia, including all the Chinese-speaking countries and territories).



FullTiltPoker.NET officials understood that J.J. can deliver enough return on investment (ROI) in order to offer her a sponsorship deal as a "Friend of Full Tilt", a deal which J.J. accepted last December before the Bellagio 5 Diamonds WPT event.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.net/JJLiu.php

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...a=b&n=1697

[MsGluck]

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Again, as J.J. Liu's agent, I ask the 2+2 audience to please refrain from posting insensitive remarks or taking cheap shots at J.J., Dan Alspach, or myself in order to justify your existence.

At this time, I cannot comment on the specifics of the situation beyond what was already reported by the media.

Please respect J.J. and Dan's need for privacy. Thank you very much.

Oliver Tse
Oliver Tse Management Group, LLC
otmgmt@otmgmt.com

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I am somewhat suprised to see your comment Oliver. I agree this is a very serious and sensitive subject. BUT how can you possibly be serious about posting this? You are a very vocal member in NVG. You of all people should know that this is a very valid thread thats should be discussed. I'm not saying that certain comments should be said, but that is 2+2. Some kids get off at being cruel.