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Old 04-18-2007, 11:20 PM
daryn daryn is offline
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also, wow. i can't believe you would honestly "take it easy" on her just because she's in a wheelchair. hold a door for her? sure. look the other way when she cheats? wow.. don't you see how unfair that is to everyone else?
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:39 PM
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Sometimes people genuinely dont understand the difference between plagiarism and research

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This is true to some degree. I think the most important part of your description of this woman is that she's a little slow. The wheelchair element merits absolutely zero special treatment for academic work - zero.
Not sure what you mean by slow, but if you think she might just not get it it could help her if you gave some guidance on what is expected of her, and what is not kosher. Describe academic dishonesty as an expellable offense and completely unacceptable. Show her how to cite her sources, then theoretically she can copy all she wants and put it in her bibliography.
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:02 AM
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I go thru great lengths to never be caught when I cheat. As an cheater this wheelchair problem really upsets me.
1. she obv. sucks at cheating
2. You are treating her different, just because she is in a wheelchair.

All I hear is how wheelchair people wanna be treated as if they are infact real people. So do what you would do to any normal person and have her kicked out of school.
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:17 AM
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Most disabled people want to be treated like everyone else. So bust her ass for cheating.

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Old 04-19-2007, 01:23 AM
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I think a lot of people are missing the part about her being 'a bit slow.'

Unless you meant she just couldn't work her arms fast enough to get herself around I think you should have a talk with her and make sure she understands what plagarism is and now to avoid it. Maybe she just isn't clear on the guidelines?
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:33 AM
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Ok the slow thing I should explain it in more detail. She talks slow and moves slow. The best way I could describe it would be if you took a breath after every word. Something like this:

Hello....my.....name.....is.......

She also thinks very slow. So its not just a speech problem.

As far as proof reading essays goes I do that sometimes, but its not the same as writting in a forum. I think its great that you guys actually proof read your posts a bunch of times and make sure all words are spelled correctly before posting, but I dont really do that and wont anytime in the near future. If I make a couple of mistakes here and there so be it.

I guess part of me could understand her frustration. I have never been that ill, but according to my co-worker she used to be normal up until she was in a car accident that left her as she is now. I mean she has to write a bunch of stuff and she cant really understand the language too well plus her mind and body dont help her, it must be very hard.

I forgot to mention that her english is very poor. It is obvious she is able to communicate better in spanish.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:39 AM
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I reassessed my earlier position.

I now realise i dont know it is your job to bust her for cheating.

Are you the guy there to help her not need to cheat, or are you the guy there to bust her?

Obviously the answer you give to that question dictates your actions quite clearly.
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Old 04-19-2007, 02:48 AM
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Are you the guy there to help her not need to cheat, or are you the guy there to bust her?


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Interesting question. I am the guy there that always tries to help people do work the right way. If that means it takes a while so be it. A lot of people dont like the fact that sometimes I will make them rewrite paragraphs that dont make any sense. I like to believe I help people so that they dont have to cheat, but not everyone wants that kind of help.
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:21 AM
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The best way I could describe it would be if you took a breath after every word

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Old 04-19-2007, 09:11 AM
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It is obvious she is able to communicate better in spanish.

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it's obvious you have a clear bias when it comes to this person. just think of how fair you're being to everyone else if you let this slide.
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