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Re: They were sooted
What ranges are we putting MP and SB on?
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What ranges are we putting MP and SB on? [/ QUOTE ] MP = K9s+ KTo+ QJo+ J9s+ 44+ A7o+ A4s+ is my rough estimate SB = any pair or flush draw |
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PF is I dunno, I just do what stoxtrader tells me. But I pitch 3 handed, call 4. Flop is an easy tree bet. Turn is a call bceause he likely has an overpair.. even a gainst a set you have 4 chop outs. [/ QUOTE ] I think that preflop is a much easier call than raising postflop. Edit - I pretty sure Stox isn't folding suited cards in the blind with even 2 players. At least he wasn't a few months ago. |
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pf is whatever. I usually wait for 7-1 with cards that can't flop me a gutshot(suited), but 5-1 isn't bad. I'd usually fold though.
I fold this flop all day. |
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I fold this flop all day. [/ QUOTE ] |
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I tend to fold this PF - I think I'm probably sacrificing a tiny amount of EV, but this is one of those spots where playing lots of tables prevents me from realizing my ev, and serves more to increase variance. 73s I call though.
As played, I THINK I play it just like OP did, the determining factor being that SB's handrange is huge and MP has overs a whole lot (Nina's range estimation is about right, maybe a little looser in terms of janky aces and middle SCs would be more accurate). Counteracting that is that SB is 50/25 and DIDN'T 3-bet preflop, which weights his range more towards low cards (though against pairs, this guy 3-bets 44 and 33 here a lot and 77 98% of the time) |
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You guys actually fold this flop? wow.. this is pretty big mistake.
MP is LAGTAG continuation betting and likely missed the flop.. He has high card heavy range.. Your going to be knocking him out of the pot at least 70% of the time. SB is a LAG who knows MP is continaution betting likely missed the flop, and is therefore raising any pair, and probaibly any decent draw (correctly). If you dont believe me Do a situational analysis on 1)your equity when the PFR folds (the significant majority of the time) 2)your equity when the PFR stays in (which you can easily let go of your hand if a flush draw completes, or SB also gives more action) You are slighty ahead of SBs range and are way ahead of MPs range. This is an easy raise. (BTW dont bother comparing your equity to MP's PF range.. His 24% equity or so on all his missed hands against your hand is 0% because your knocking him out of hte pot) |
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