FTOPS #1 - When do I become a believer?

[stevepa]

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No horrible fate - simply a raise to like 800 which he would do w/ ATC which leaves me folding 300 chips poorer than C/F or playing an even more bloated pot OOP w/ a marginal hand and no real plan.

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New plan based on this new info, bet/call flop! On a more serious note, betting this flop is very bad (though not because he'll raise any 2...) Also, agree with nath that there is nothing wrong with folding this flop.

Steve

[Offspring6767]

A-rag imo

[sinderg]

same as nath, no point of playing this pot.
just throw it.
hockey coach got the reason locked down [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[thebawler]

busted flush draw or total bluff call

[Soulman]

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I just fold the flop a lot. I mean, what's the point?

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I hesitated to say I would just fold the flop until I saw nath saying it, thx for making me not feel weak-tight.

[nath]

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On a more serious note, betting this flop is very bad

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why?

[sharkstevie]

I probably fold on the flop. Check/calling 2 streets to fold on the river with 2 unscary cards on turn and river is bad. Maybe raise or fold flop IMO to get info.

The way the hand was played i think i make the call on the river, Your play seems weak and its definitely possible he is firing a 3rd shell

[stevepa]

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On a more serious note, betting this flop is very bad

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why?

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Because it accomplishes nothing? I mean I'm sure it's better than open folding but really don't see how it can be better than checking.