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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
I really like a flat call. Either shove turn or C/C his AI on turn. What cards are we scared of on the turn?
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
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I really like a flat call. Either shove turn or C/C his AI on turn. What cards are we scared of on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] doesnt make any differense, it will be < 1/2 psb left, fold or push is the only reasonable options. |
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
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i think he can have JJ+ here, your prob good to get it in. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
I don't see how you can fold and flatting makes no sense so just shove it now.
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
alright so it seems like everyone said fold, and normally i wud agree esp in the million. but i actually folded in the hand after tanking for a while.
based on the preflop call i put him on JJ+ or TT+. on the flop i'd expect him to just shove JJ-QQ. the only hand that made sense for me after the minraise was AA. i dunno. it was def an unusual laydown for me but i just cudnt put him on anything but aa |
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
Norfman is weird tho he could easily be minraising to induce. also the stats i have on him are like 15/3 over 100 or so its not like he plays superstandard
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
oh ya thats another thing. if he had been a loser on pokerdb there's no way i would have folded. i didn't really know how he played, but his results seemed to indicate that he wasnt some retard
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
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but his results seemed to indicate that he wasnt some retard [/ QUOTE ] but his play in this hand "seems to indicate" something else [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]...I think sticking it in is best, AA is definitely weighted more than QQ/JJ, but you're getting some pot odds to make up for that. |
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
dont fold
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Re: Mill - fold KK on rag flop?
if you cant narrow his range enough, what about flatting flop to induce the turn bet? If you're sure his range is tight enough that he stacks off with everything he may take this line with (TT/JJ+ I guess) than id just shove flop, but without that confidence in the read I like calling flop minraise and calling turn.
edit: from the looks of peoples reads on him his range won't h really ever be wide enough to have to worry about flatting flop>shoving |
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