Post UR Snow - Page 3

Burdzthewurd · #21 11-26-2006, 04:14 AM

I should have kept one of the 7s and drawn 1 going into the 2nd draw, but it worked out anyway. I need to snow better, blah.

PokerStars Game #7179779402: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/11/26 - 03:06:06 (ET)
Table 'Gisela' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: DazzleO ($35.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Burdamania ($21 in chips)
Seat 5: pjblcmp ($27.90 in chips)
Seat 6: blitz962 ($18.25 in chips)
pjblcmp: posts small blind $0.25
blitz962: posts big blind $0.50
U. Otta Fold: sits out
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Burdamania [2c 7s Kd Jc 5c]
DazzleO: folds
Burdamania: raises $0.50 to $1
pjblcmp: calls $0.75
blitz962: folds
U. Otta Fold leaves the table
pjblcmp: discards 1 card
Burdamania: discards 2 cards [Kd Jc]
Dealt to Burdamania [7d 7h]
pjblcmp: bets $0.50
Burdamania: raises $0.50 to $1
pjblcmp: calls $0.50
pjblcmp: discards 1 card
Burdamania: discards 2 cards [7d 7h]
Dealt to Burdamania [Qd Tc]
pjblcmp: checks
Burdamania: bets $1
pjblcmp: calls $1
pjblcmp: discards 1 card
Burdamania: stands pat
pjblcmp: checks
Burdamania: bets $1
pjblcmp: folds
Burdamania collected $6.20 from pot
Burdamania: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.50 | Rake $0.30
Seat 3: DazzleO folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Burdamania (button) collected ($6.20)
Seat 5: pjblcmp (small blind) folded after the 3rd Draw
Seat 6: blitz962 (big blind) folded before the Draw

DeathDonkey · #22 11-26-2006, 04:37 AM

Wow this hand is really bad. What's with the raise after you catch 3 sevens? You're clearly behind but you aren't snowing since you then draw two again. Lucky for you your opponent is bad and checks to you again and then you don't really snow you just stay pat with a dog hand though I guess on the end he'd fold a better Q or maybe a J so the river "bluff" does have some merit.

-DeathDonkey

monroe · #23 11-26-2006, 10:10 AM

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I should have kept one of the 7s and drawn 1 going into the 2nd draw, but it worked out anyway. I need to snow better, blah.

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I don't think that's right either.

There's a school of thought from some people that any time you see a handful of deuces (or sevens) that you should consider snowing. I feel that if I still have a playable draw early on in the hand (as you did), I should just continue the hand normally, noting that it may be harder for my opp to make his hand. It's only on the last draw (and betting round prior) that I will sometimes use this info and try something fancy if I haven't made my hand yet (and that "fancy" thing is just the same thing I would do if I made a hand).

With that in mind, I would just call the second round bet and draw two again (the snowing alternative that I don't do is to raise and STAND PAT, not draw again).

Also, at .5/1, this kind of FPS is totally unnecessary and may have contributed to your 150 BB downswing.

Burdzthewurd · #24 11-26-2006, 02:46 PM

This is pretty much a one every hundred or two hands situation, so if you think FPS is a constant thing of mine, it isn't. Feel free to watch me if you think I'm terrible btw, Burdamania on Stars.

monroe · #25 11-26-2006, 03:12 PM

I wouldn't know if FPS was a habit of yours. I was just pointing out that I don't feel like you need to bother with plays like this at .5/1. If it's not a habit, then it doesn't matter. This thread is only half-serious anyway. I also wanted to let you know how I would usually play the situation. It is nice to win a TD pot with QT, isn't it?

Guruman · #26 11-27-2006, 10:55 PM

villain in this hand is multitabling and looks weak/tight. I pop preflop and immediately hate it, but I've done it so now I have to try to make the best of it.

when he draws 2 right off the bat I have to think that he's got good starters but really needs to hit. One orbit prior to this I took the a similar line with a pat number 2 that I was dealt initially.

I'll reiterate that I hate my predraw raise.

PokerStars Game #7204547659: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($2/$4) - 2006/11/27 - 21:46:13 (ET)

*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Guruman [Jc Kh 7c 2h 8d]
Guruman: raises $2 to $4
Mp: folds
Victim: calls $4 (on the button)
Sb: folds
bb: folds

Guruman: discards 2 cards [Jc Kh]
Dealt to Guruman [Th Qh]
Victim: discards 2 cards

Guruman: bets $2
Victim: calls $2

Guruman: stands pat
Victim: discards 2 cards

Guruman: bets $4
Victim: calls $4

Guruman: stands pat
Victim: discards 1 card

Guruman: bets $4
Victim: folds
Guruman collected $22 from pot
Guruman: doesn't show hand

berserk · #27 11-28-2006, 07:38 PM

Berserk makes horrible spew snow after horrible spew button steal against Fossilman because hey, its fossilman:

Dealt to XXX [2d 3c Ad Kh 2h]
Raven052: folds
PimpingU2: folds
XXX: raises $5 to $10
FossilMan: calls $8
cachews: folds
FossilMan: discards 2 cards
XXX: discards 1 card [Ad]
Dealt to XXX[6c]
FossilMan: checks
XXX: bets $5
FossilMan: calls $5
FossilMan: discards 2 cards
XXX: stands pat
FossilMan: checks
XXX: bets $10
FossilMan: folds
XXX collected $34 from pot
XXX: doesn't show hand

MarkGritter · #28 11-29-2006, 01:56 AM

Horrible snow:

PokerStars Game #7221157388: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/11/29 - 00:49:06 (ET)
Table 'Lepus V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: oogee ($637.50 in chips)
Seat 2: dangdokodang ($78 in chips)
Seat 3: mgritter ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: Raven052 ($493.50 in chips)
Seat 5: CrimeThInc ($264 in chips)
Seat 6: WilyTilt ($47 in chips)
WilyTilt: posts small blind $2
oogee: posts big blind $5
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to mgritter [7h 4d 8d 7c 8c]
dangdokodang: folds
mgritter: raises $5 to $10
Raven052: folds
CrimeThInc: folds
WilyTilt: folds
oogee: calls $5
oogee: discards 2 cards
mgritter: discards 1 card [8c]
Dealt to mgritter [6c]
oogee: checks
mgritter: bets $5
oogee: calls $5
oogee: discards 1 card
mgritter: stands pat
oogee: checks
mgritter: bets $10
oogee: calls $10
oogee: discards 1 card
mgritter: stands pat
oogee: checks
mgritter: bets $10
oogee: folds
mgritter collected $50 from pot
mgritter: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52 | Rake $2
Seat 1: oogee (big blind) folded after the 3rd Draw
Seat 2: dangdokodang folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mgritter collected ($50)
Seat 4: Raven052 folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 5: CrimeThInc (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WilyTilt (small blind) folded before the Draw

Unfortunately going pat on the 2nd draw whether I made it or not appears to be the only way I can win tonight. My 3rd draws have been absolute crap, the best so far has been a J (which lost to #5 of course.)

DeathDonkey · #29 11-29-2006, 08:06 AM

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Berserk makes horrible spew snow after horrible spew button steal against Fossilman because hey, its fossilman:

Dealt to XXX [2d 3c Ad Kh 2h]
Raven052: folds
PimpingU2: folds
XXX: raises $5 to $10
FossilMan: calls $8
cachews: folds
FossilMan: discards 2 cards
XXX: discards 1 card [Ad]
Dealt to XXX[6c]
FossilMan: checks
XXX: bets $5
FossilMan: calls $5
FossilMan: discards 2 cards
XXX: stands pat
FossilMan: checks
XXX: bets $10
FossilMan: folds
XXX collected $34 from pot
XXX: doesn't show hand

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Fossilman is pretty used to people making moves on him just because its him so I think he probably would look you up light here. In general I think value betting him and rarely to never bluffing is probably right. He is probably the best player I've played with in the games so far (I've played live 100/200 TDL with him as well so I may be a bit biased by larger sample size than I have on most stars regulars) though.

-DeathDonkey

2461Badugi · #30 11-30-2006, 01:28 PM

An extremely weird one. I've been card-dead at this table so don't have my usual semilag image and have been getting too much respect. So seeing insane weakness I decided to wield it.

PokerStars Game #7238819786: Triple Draw 2-7 Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/11/30 - 12:23:11 (ET)
Table 'Hyperborea II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: someclown ($465 in chips)
Seat 2: Hamsterstyle ($349 in chips)
Seat 3: Zipnalong ($147 in chips)
Seat 4: HollyBeth ($248 in chips)
Seat 5: hoodiewho ($77 in chips)
Seat 6: timprov_mn ($483 in chips)
hoodiewho: posts small blind $2
timprov_mn: posts big blind $5
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to timprov_mn [7c Td 5s 4h 3h]
someclown: folds
Hamsterstyle: folds
Zipnalong: folds
HollyBeth: raises $5 to $10
hoodiewho: folds
timprov_mn: raises $5 to $15
Zipnalong said, "so the PLO game in tunica is unplayable?"
HollyBeth: calls $5
timprov_mn: discards 1 card [Td]
Dealt to timprov_mn [Jc]
HollyBeth: stands pat
timprov_mn: checks
someclown said, "that guy that left dosent know how lucky he is that we didnt pay"
HollyBeth: bets $5
timprov_mn: calls $5
timprov_mn: discards 1 card [Jc]
Dealt to timprov_mn [4c]
HollyBeth: stands pat
timprov_mn: checks
HollyBeth: bets $10
timprov_mn: raises $10 to $20
HollyBeth: folds
someclown said, "no it isnt"
timprov_mn collected $60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $62 | Rake $2
Seat 1: someclown folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hamsterstyle folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Zipnalong folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: HollyBeth (button) folded after the 2nd Draw
Seat 5: hoodiewho (small blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 6: timprov_mn (big blind) collected ($60)