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Old 10-18-2006, 08:06 PM
dtan05 dtan05 is offline
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Default Re: A good problem to have

lol jim, i'm serious. i might know but not know that it's called "pricing in" though?
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:07 PM
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I'd make it $225 and call a push, shoving most rivers.


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lol jim, i'm serious. i might know but not know that it's called "pricing in" though?

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Assuming this is what you're asking.. pricing out means you charge enough so that a draw cannot profitably call your bet/raise. You shut out the draw with implied and current odds.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:10 PM
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oh thx for the explanation phresh.he's getting like 3.5 to 1 you guys really think he's minraising with a DRAW though? usually donks are like OMGIHAVEAGOODHAND MINRAISEEE
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:12 PM
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lol jim, i'm serious. i might know but not know that it's called "pricing in" though?

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pricing in = giving him good/correct odds to draw.

considering that he might have extra outs to a straight, and if the pot gets big enough that i cant get away from it on the river he can own me, i'd prefer to err on the side of betting more than less.

also, he's a fish, so he'll probably call lighter than most players, maybe draw with bad odds.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:13 PM
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oh thx for the explanation phresh.he's getting like 3.5 to 1 you guys really think he's minraising with a DRAW though? usually donks are like OMGIHAVEAGOODHAND MINRAISEEE

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Who knows, they're donks. I know my hand is good against his range and I want to get money in while ahead and to protect from a draw if he indeed has one.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:14 PM
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I make it 210
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:22 PM
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id minraise and stick it in no matter what the river card is. he's totally priced out of a draw anyway.

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wtf are you talking about man? You've been saying some weird stuff lately.

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lately?
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:23 PM
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I only recently started participating in discussion again.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:34 PM
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Do you really think villian is smooth calling with 444 here on this draw heavy of a board? you said fishy but dunno seems kind of unlikely.

The turn raise looks like he is maybe tryin get a lil more value in with a AJ,KJ, 3/4 or a funky two pair maybe...

I dont think he has a set here and if he does oh well..I think you have to re-raise him on the turn here cause all the times he picked up a draw on the turn or has a TPGK funky two pair will outweight the times he flopped a set. You gotta raise big i like 209.99 here.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:23 PM
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all,
if we 'minraise', he has managed to put 150 into a 40 dollar pot on the turn. he's priced the [censored] out.

if you want to be that guy, you can say that technically, a minraise is to 117. he's still priced himself out with his turn bet.

its not like his range is OMG DRAW
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