Beginning 1/2 NL grinding in Vegas

[*TT*]

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awesome. thanks! I just ordered the new 2+2 book that also seems to cover the same ground.

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Not even close. Professional NL Hold'em by Flynn, Metha, and Miller will make your eyes pop out when it comes out in 2 weeks (I have already read some of it). The other book is meh at best.

[HokieGreg]

man your whiny...if you lost 1k at a 1/2 table in b+m then you have alot more to think about..i have NEVER lost that many buyins at a casino at that level. You should be analyzing your game.

if your losing 5 buyins in one night at one table, then your just playing horribly. I dont care what anyone here says about variance. At that level the variance shouldnt be that high. if people are going all in all the time then just wait till you have a big pair and call and stack them...i dont see the problem here.

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You sir are a douche and clearly don't understand variance at all. He also didn't say he lost in one night.

[ungarop]

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Then, those same folks will bet huge (a $20 standard raise is not unusual)

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Uh, standard at 1/2?

[ungarop]

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If you want to be a pro you have to play like a pro and there's no better book to teach you than Play Poker Like the Pros by Hellmuth, the name of the book says it all.

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Are you Hellmuth's relative or best friend? This book is not good, but I guess a search in Books & Publications will tell you that.

[Fishhead24]

Nice Phil spam.......

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Can you beat the 1/2 game online at all ? I mean if you can break even at that you'll crush the IP game. But if you're a net loses at the 1/2 game online, it's not time to go at this with any kind of ambition...

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Live 1/2 plays more like .05/.10 online.

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Expect to see a LOT of longball at 1/2 in Vegas. People will sit down with $3000 in their pockets and continually go all-in with their $200 buy-ins until they have a $400-$500 stack at the table. Then, those same folks will bet huge (a $20 standard raise is not unusual), and bully all the tourists out of their $300-$400 that they came to play with, usually $50 or so at a time.

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I've been in Vegas almost a month now and haven't seen ANY of this. A couple guys I've seen buy in short over and over and get it in on the flop frequently, but most players are just retarded. They limp call preflop and check fold the flop almost all the time. Getting to showdown as an aggressive player is so rare it's not even funny, and you are rarely going to get it all in because generally live people don't like to call big bets and at 1/2nl they won't raise you without the mortal nuts.

I've seen sets folded countless times on the flop and even middling flushes folded on unpaired boards as well. basically none of these were good laydowns.

[DonovanMD]

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Can you beat the 1/2 game online at all ? I mean if you can break even at that you'll crush the IP game. But if you're a net loses at the 1/2 game online, it's not time to go at this with any kind of ambition...

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Live 1/2 plays more like .05/.10 online.

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Make that .01-.02

[littleeddy]

I like to think I'm succesfull at 100NL online...over 50,000 hands. Live 1/2NL in Vegas is very fishy. Plays like micro stakes, but with more money. I have had a problem live being called down with middle pair [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
The one thing I cant agree with is haveing people fold sets, flushes...if they hit...they will go broke or bank with it.

[Matt Flynn]

thanks TT!


OP: Don't forget to check out the master stickies in the SSNL and MSNL forums. Plenty of meat to chew on there.