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#24
11-21-2006, 03:16 AM
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Re: 100 rebuy, huge move
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check ....fold...give the thing up and realize you sholud not have been there to begin with [/ QUOTE ] That's compounding one mistake with another. OP connected with the flop. He has a pair and a draw of sorts. There is way too much money in now. Just push and hope villain folds or you suck out. If OP did not have a pair or atleast a gutshot, then I would check/fold. 
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#27
11-21-2006, 11:38 AM
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Re: 100 rebuy, huge move
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timex, i guess this is where i challenge u to a 10k heads up freezeout. put ur money where ur mouth is [/ QUOTE ] I will do this if you tell me your name on Stars, FWIW, I think I would be willing to play higher if you really want to.
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#28
11-21-2006, 12:44 PM
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Re: 100 rebuy, huge move
hope this isnt the dealbreaker but i'm -bbj- on stars.
I can start playing a little bit today/tonite but will be home for thanksgiving until sunday so we can start after i get back if u want.
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#29
11-21-2006, 01:23 PM
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Re: 100 rebuy, huge move
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Saying it is more likely to work in a sunday tournament is completely false. Players are worse and will stack off with alot here. This only works against decent players, which I thought the reraiser was. This move is not made because a guy is afraid to risk his tournament life, u got it wrong he was chip leader. [/ QUOTE ] It is possible a 4-bet move like this works better in the 100r, but in general the Sunday tournaments are filled with weak/tight donks. The second hour of online rebuy tournaments, even the 100r, are filled with maniacs like you. So in general, I would rather make a move live or in a Sunday touranment than in the 100r. Kind of hard to post a hand like this and say it is not about the preflop play. Postflop, this is a very easy push. Did you check/fold? Is that why they thought you had KK? By the way, I am sure you are a strong player, and I am not challenging you to a $10K HU match.
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#30
11-21-2006, 02:37 PM
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Re: 100 rebuy, huge move
yes and i wasnt challenging u just the guy that called me out lol
i mean this thread can be about the preflop play but there's not enough space to discuss preflop and postflop in this hand in one thread. The thinking preflop and on the flop goes much much deeper than people are saying. although i think a shove is probably best Since everyone is so caught up on the preflop of this hand.... You need to able to make moves like this once in a while. Would anyone in the chip leader's position doubt for a second that my hand was QQ+ with a very high likelyhood of KK+? I'm in the SB 4 betting the chip leader in mid pos who repopped a 2nd pos. No one will ever ever ever think this is a move, thats what makes it so great combined with being so deep it gives that added confirmation of a big hand. You just have to pick the right opponent and one that is somewhat predictable. Those are that are saying this works better with a smaller stack are very wrong. If he makes it 1600 and i had 5k and push my range is much wider to him than if i have 13k. Not saying its bad with a smaller stack but it just won't automatically project the KK+ range that u are looking to represent. Bluffing is all about what your hand looks like to your opponent. It's not to say that you should bluff everytime u can respresent a big hand, but in this specific situation(which i think it is not all that uncommon, facing a 3 bet from loose, huge stack) your hand looks be QQ+ 100% of the time and KK+ 80%-90% of the time. Combine this with the reraiser having a wide range and it makes it an amazing spot to bluff. Those saying being out of position here is bad are wrong, when running such a huge bluff preflop u need to get the first bet in on the flop
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