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Old 11-04-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: $55 NLTRN: standard KK on A hi board?

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Standard? Does anyone not bet out the turn?



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t1510)
Hero (t1490)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, Button calls t40.

Flop: (t120) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t80</font>, Button calls t80.

Turn: (t280) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t240</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t520

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I usually make a normal cbet on the flop, check the turn (call/fold depends on read), solid bet on river if they checked behind on turn.

If you make it that far you generally get called by the jack, if they have the ace you usually won't make it to the river.

Edit: In my experience players with the jack won't call 3 barrels but will be borderline for calling 2 (meaning if you bet the flop they are like 50% for calling another bet on the turn). By showing weakness on the turn you can usually push them over the edge for calling on the river. On the other hand, the ace probably isn't folding regardless. The turn check is pretty break-even for value from the jack, but it helps control the pot in case you run into the ace.

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Old 11-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Kalledrengen Kalledrengen is offline
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Default Re: $55 NLTRN: standard KK on A hi board?

Seems that we have no real read on villain.
I think I double barral this turn quite often aswell. There is a FD and he could have a gutshot with KQ aswell or some J. The turn does not complete any draw so firing twice is quit alright I think.

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Edit: In my experience players with the jack won't call 3 barrels but will be borderline for calling 2 (meaning if you bet the flop they are like 50% for calling another bet on the turn). By showing weakness on the turn you can usually push them over the edge for calling on the river. On the other hand, the ace probably isn't folding regardless. The turn check is pretty break-even for value from the jack, but it helps control the pot in case you run into the ace.

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Nice post, gives something to think about!
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