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Re: Just A Reminder About Religious People
I think you're right, at least if you consider the western society only.
However you should also remember that most of these people also believe that believing what they believe is good, and that not believing it is bad. So while they don't really believe they have good arguments, they think whoever doesn't believe the same as them is bad. Especially those who don't have another simlar belief instead. Also, most of these people encourage others to be in the second group, because they think that's the right position to hold, even if they themselves "lack the faith". |
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Re: Just A Reminder About Religious People
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I think you're right, at least if you consider the western society only. However you should also remember that most of these people also believe that believing what they believe is good, and that not believing it is bad. So while they don't really believe they have good arguments, they think whoever doesn't believe the same as them is bad. Especially those who don't have another simlar belief instead. Also, most of these people encourage others to be in the second group, because they think that's the right position to hold, even if they themselves "lack the faith". [/ QUOTE ] Disagree with last sentence. Actually your last sentence was contradictory because the second group need not have as much faith as the first. |
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Mormons In Group One
Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others, I would think it implies that they realize that their beliefs are not so self evident that non believer's must be undeserving people with the type of ulterior motives that Not Ready ascribes to unbelievers. (Obviously I am not talking about the exact same type of unbelief or ulterior motives since there are two different religions involved. But you get the idea.)
So voting for Romney isn't as bad as Lestat makes it out to be. |
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Ya see, Brett Favre is is like an Old Christianity and and ah Tony Romo is like a new Judaism. And well Muslim is like you know a Brett Favre from a parellel world. Whos' the best quaterback in the league. Some even think it's Tom Brady, and he's like your hindi quaterback. And then of course there's all these dead quaterbacks that don't play the game anymore. Astrology(Bart Starr), Joe Montana(Greek Mythology), and and Terry Bradshaw. Now when you have these quaterbacks playing each other the team with the most points and the end of the game is gonna win. [/ QUOTE ] haha. This sounds like something John Madden would ramble on about during a game - especially that last sentence. |
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Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others, I would think it implies that they realize that their beliefs are not so self evident that non believer's must be undeserving people with the type of ulterior motives that Not Ready ascribes to unbelievers. (Obviously I am not talking about the exact same type of unbelief or ulterior motives since there are two different religions involved. But you get the idea.) So voting for Romney isn't as bad as Lestat makes it out to be. [/ QUOTE ] You need to understand that there is a very real chance that some of these people are actually looking forward to judgement day! Mitt thinks Jesus will be in Missouri soon. Call it what you like... Dellusional or stupid. But the point is, are we really comfortable having someone who is even capable of such ludicrous beliefs at the helm of the most powerful country on earth?!?! The fact is, there is no way to know what he really does and doesn't think. What we do know is that he is at least a little irrational. But what if he's a lot irrational? For all we know, he may view it as his religious duty to start the process of holocaust. You're a mathemetician... Work it out. What would the odds have to be for someone we know to be at least a little dellusional, to be VERY dellusional before it's better to fill the job with someone we're certain doesn't think Jesus will be in Missouri any time soon. |
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You need to understand that there is a very real chance that some of these people are actually looking forward to judgement day! Mitt thinks Jesus will be in Missouri soon. Call it what you like... Dellusional or stupid. [/ QUOTE ] I think he is just in a situation similar to when his wife asks him whether he thinks she is fat. |
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Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others, [/ QUOTE ] What is this supposed to mean? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others, [/ QUOTE ] What is this supposed to mean? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ]A thing that makes religion irrational is what happens to all the people who died before God's true word was spoken. For awhile there was a book in the bible that had Jesus going to preach in hell for the 3 days before he was resurected. Where we are to assume people like Moses and Plato have been burning all along. I believe that gospel is now apocryphal. But there is mention of the journey to hell in other gospels. The Mormons have a very large geneology database that contains the names of all those known to have lived and died since records were keept, and pray for them. Every week in a special ceremonies Mormons are giving the list of names to pray for. The prayer is suppose to baptize the dead. |
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Re: Mormons In Group One
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Since they baptize long dead Jewish people and others, I would think it implies that they realize that their beliefs are not so self evident that non believer's must be undeserving people with the type of ulterior motives that Not Ready ascribes to unbelievers. (Obviously I am not talking about the exact same type of unbelief or ulterior motives since there are two different religions involved. But you get the idea.) So voting for Romney isn't as bad as Lestat makes it out to be. [/ QUOTE ] Also, they don't believe in hell. That puts them above all other Christian factions IMO. But it's still not saying much. |
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Re: Just A Reminder About Religious People
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[ QUOTE ] I think you're right, at least if you consider the western society only. However you should also remember that most of these people also believe that believing what they believe is good, and that not believing it is bad. So while they don't really believe they have good arguments, they think whoever doesn't believe the same as them is bad. Especially those who don't have another simlar belief instead. Also, most of these people encourage others to be in the second group, because they think that's the right position to hold, even if they themselves "lack the faith". [/ QUOTE ] Disagree with last sentence. Actually your last sentence was contradictory because the second group need not have as much faith as the first. [/ QUOTE ] I think I must be missing something here. Do you mean that the second group actually believes they have good evidence for their beliefs, so they don't need faith? I would agree with that, if it wasn't because these people are much less willing to evaluate or accept evidence against their beliefs. I would say that it's faith that produces this, but I can see how you can disagree with that. Or maybe you didn't mean that kind of people at all when talking about the second group? |
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