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Old 11-10-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

Any 4-bet with these stacks are going to price you into to calling (unless you min raise or something stupid like that).

So, you have to decide before you 4-bet if you want to play for stacks.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

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id just repot it to like 370 or whatever

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thats gross sizing
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

how on earth is the betsizing important? we 4bet, we get it in. if villain is mildly competent he'll know this. hence, it doesnt matter.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

Because 4-betting smaller allows you to 4-bet bluff sometimes?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

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guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?

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370=250=shove
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

given your reads that he loves to squeeze, I like the 4 bet/call plan. I make it alot smaller though, like $210. Against normal tags read less I muck pf

As played, you have to call given the price
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

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guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?

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370=250=shove

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other than the fact that ur willing to get all the money in once you 4bet these bet sizes aren't one and the same.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

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given your reads that he loves to squeeze, I like the 4 bet/call plan. I make it alot smaller though, like $210. Against normal tags read less I muck pf

As played, you have to call given the price

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Is your bet sizing in hope that it might give him the impression of FE so he might shove wider?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves

yes, it invites him to get it in with a much wider range than the bet sizing in the OP, and it means when we bluff 4 bet small its cheaper and has more credence
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