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Yes or no on this whole hand? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. |
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Hmm seems very standard. Whats other options ? Folding [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
I guess the problem is that he shoves.. maybe live donks are supposed to call with a pair there ? So he probably didnt call preflop with KT. Maybe QJs ? Maybe T9s ? Maybe AA or KK ?. I guess if you think he would only call with a pair its very reasonable problem now. Still there are many 2pair hands which you beat so I guses folding is bad. |
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live poker is VERY different. If this is the type that will show up with 2pair here, you should know it already. I would be ready to get stacks in , but not with the line you took. I like a flop donk much better. If villain has any Kx/AA it should be easy to get stacks in the middle, and you might even get some calls out of nut gutshots (esp backdoors etc).
Also i dont like the call preflop. I know pot odds etc, but you are OOP deep, with a hand that misses most flops. When you do flop sets, it is not so easy to extract value. |
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it was easy this time. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
TTT |
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told you so
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Also i dont like the call preflop. I know pot odds etc, but you are OOP deep, with a hand that misses most flops. When you do flop sets, it is not so easy to extract value. [/ QUOTE ] are you serious? this is EXACTLY the type of hand to be calling w/ when you are deep. And it wasn't even a big 3-bet...coupled w/ another caller, you can't throw away this hand. It may have been unlucky here to get shown a higher set, but you can't assume that everytime someone throws you heat that they have you over-setted. Plenty of live-donks overplay AA or other overpairs in this type of spot. |
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complete cooler w/ no read, hell even with...
I like everything btw. |
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I think it's extremely likely for the coldcaller to have a (pretty big) pocket pair here and the reraiser should have one much of the time as well. Against two higher pocket pairs you are going to get oversetted pretty often.
Board: 3s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 65.867% 65.70% 00.16% 10572444 26451.00 { 33 } Hand 1: 19.068% 18.90% 00.16% 3041793 26451.00 { AA } Hand 2: 15.066% 14.90% 00.16% 2397870 26451.00 { TT } |
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wow that is [censored] stunning to me.
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the thing some of you don't seem to get is that you don't have to lose your stack if you get oversetted in a live game 200bb deep. this was a fold - a reasonably easy one.
so you math dudes need to merge that equity crap with [(avg dollars lost by guys who are unable to fold sets live 200bb)+(avg dollars lost by guys who are able to fold sets live 200bb *.3)]/2 or something to get a true reflection of how the forum would fare. |
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