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Old 05-16-2007, 05:04 PM
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But it doesn't necessarily follow that the US is responsible or to blame. At least in my mind, those terms carry a certain moral element.

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Well, the 'US' certainly isn't to blame, in the sense that bombing buildings is wrong and people who do such things should always shoulder much of the blame.

That said, I also hate saying that 'America' of the 'US' helped cause the problem, since such collective terms mask who the real perpetrators are (the individuals composing the US govt who had a hand in authorizing our terrible foreign policy). These people--not the average US citizen, or 'America', or whatever, should face responsibility for all the damge they've cause on other countries, action that provided substantial motivation for 9/11, etc.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:05 PM
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That's a pretty crappy poll, doesn't even use cookies to attempt to limit votes.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:05 PM
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Why the hell was Giuliani allowed to interject his commentary in that debate? That was BS.

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That was a dirty move by Rudy. He keeps playing the 9/11 card and its not going to work. Ron Paul will destroy him and anyone else on that panel in a heads up debate.

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It will work simply because a real heads up debate will never ever happen.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:07 PM
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Though I am not completely disagreeing with you, who gets killed in the Middle East from our policies: leaders or the people? You don't see GW or Saddam out leading the troops--it is done by proxy.

There is an African saying: When elephants fight, it is the grass that gets trampled.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:09 PM
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It amazes me how Republicans mouth off about keeping the Federal government out of people's lives . . . unless they live on another continent.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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He was just on the situation room.

Spoke very confidently and called out guiliani for not reading the 9/11 reports
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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He was just on the situation room.

Spoke very confidently and called out guiliani for not reading the 9/11 reports

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That was great. Rudy is a fool.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:29 PM
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It amazes me how Republicans mouth off about keeping the Federal government out of people's lives . . . unless they live on another continent.

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Old 05-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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Though I am not completely disagreeing with you, who gets killed in the Middle East from our policies: leaders or the people? You don't see GW or Saddam out leading the troops--it is done by proxy.

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Well, the leaders lead the people into war, so the leaders reap benefits while ordinary people (both solidiers and innocent civilians) suffer.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:01 PM
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That was great. Rudy is a fool.

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