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Old 08-11-2007, 01:30 AM
Boquense Boquense is offline
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($124.20)
Button ($347.50)
SB ($449.80)
Hero ($414.10)
UTG ($440)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($34) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $56</font>, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($146) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($146) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $376</font>, Hero calls $230.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $846.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 4c 4h (three of a kind, fours).
UTG has Kd Kc (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $872.10. </font>

I timed all the way down and was about 75% leaning toward fold when the table donk starts spamming "kkk" "hes got top set". I don't exactly know why, but that and the little voice inside my head that said "OMFG I CAN'T FOLD A SET EVEN THOUGH I KNOW I'M BEAT" lead me to call.

I wrote the OP to include the fold because if I hadn't, everyone would have assumed that my reason for posting the hand was results oriented.

I was hoping for some meaningful discussion (thwarted again).
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

Oh, and Ike, I play 2/4 and 3/6 because it's easy, low variance money.

I'm satisfied with my hourly for the time being. I'm happy for you and all your success/glory.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($124.20)
Button ($347.50)
SB ($449.80)
Hero ($414.10)
UTG ($440)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($34) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $56</font>, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($146) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($146) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $376</font>, Hero calls $230.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $846.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 4c 4h (three of a kind, fours).
UTG has Kd Kc (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $872.10. </font>

I timed all the way down and was about 75% leaning toward fold when the table donk starts spamming "kkk" "hes got top set". I don't exactly know why, but that and the little voice inside my head that said "OMFG I CAN'T FOLD A SET EVEN THOUGH I KNOW I'M BEAT" lead me to call.

I wrote the OP to include the fold because if I hadn't, everyone would have assumed that my reason for posting the hand was results oriented.

I was hoping for some meaningful discussion (thwarted again).

[/ QUOTE ]

lmao and who let this guy draw to the river for a set to beat you when you had him beat flop &amp; turn?

Oh wait that's gibberish from me again, right? ;-)
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

OH MAN HE HAD KINGS AFTER ALL I BETTER MAKE A POST ABOUT IT I PLAY SO BAD I KNEW HE HAD THE KINGS GOD ALMIGHTY
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

Did you just say "draw to the river for a set"?
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

ikestoys said it best "lol you'll be at 2/4 for a while"
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:50 AM
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Bye.

This thread just goes to show that 2+2 is pretty much good for drama bombs, NSFW threads in OOT, and Gambler 2k4 threads in BV.
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:54 AM
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[x] op is result-oriented
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...10#Post11602966
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Bump, Set, Fold.

I don't mind just calling the flop but I would lead any turn card because a lot of taggy players will check behind on the turn for pot control unimproved. When you lead they almost always call / raise the turn which puts us in a great river spot.

As played, I don't think a fold is nearly as bad as some of you are making it out to be. It's hard though because the only hand that makes any sense that we lose to is KKK, but honestly nothing else makes any sense here. How does he get to the river with a hand he wants to bluff with? He isn't ever value raising worse, so really I think a fold is fine, although I tend to call anyways.

For those of you in the call camp, what do you expect him to show up with?
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