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Re: Misplayed on every street?
I was with you until the river, but I would have called.
When BB checks the river I think it's very likely you have him beat (maybe 67 or something), so I don't think you should let overcalling bother you. MP2 didn't raise the turn, which could mean an overpair that's scared of a 5 or a straight, but could also mean AK or something that's hoping for a nice river. It depends on what types of players they are of course, but against unknowns (read: probably not very good) I would make this call, especially given the fact that MP2 bet "quickly" on the river. |
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
I don't think you misplayed any street. Instead, you misplayed the title of this post.
If you'd have called it "Tough spots with 88" or "Standard?" or something, everyone wouldn't be telling you "oh yeah, you definitely misplayed". I think you played it fine. I raise PF 90% of the time, but not always; I raise/call the turn 20% of time; and call the river 25% of the time, but I honestly think it's fine as played. I definitely like the flop donk. |
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
[ QUOTE ]
I don't think you misplayed any street. Instead, you misplayed the title of this post. If you'd have called it "Tough spots with 88" or "Standard?" or something, everyone wouldn't be telling you "oh yeah, you definitely misplayed". [/ QUOTE ] LOL at this. Yep, all of MSLHE has a case of Oppositional Identity. |
#24
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
I'd raise the turn rather quickly here. Rest looks fine, honestly.
Rob |
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Backdrop: I'd just had a rush of premium starting hands, so I'd been raising a lot PF, which, in a game like the Commerce 20, calls attention to itself. [/ QUOTE ] I am actually surprised that no one is having any issue with open limping with 88 even UTG. I would've raised on turn trying to knock MP2 out and trying to get a free showdown. As played, folding river is fine, but I usually pay off, since that's what I do. [/ QUOTE ] Most of the time I like the raise, but not in the case he described. He's been getting lots of good starting hands and has been raising with great frequency lately. With 88 there are two types of pots you want: heads up or as many players as possible. With his recent raising frequency even the UTG raise will get less respect and is unlikely to fold out most of the field. So limping in and hoping to get good set odds is a good alternative here. [/ QUOTE ] So what's usually consider as high frequency of raising? 2/orbit 3/orbit? Maybe I am in the minority here, hence I am stuck at poker lately, but I would usually limp for set value in LP, not UTG. Also, if I recall correctly, this is probably the 2nd orbit that Joker played on this table, I didn't think he was raising light or excessive. |
#26
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
3-bet the flop.
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
i really think you can fold the turn.
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#28
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Re: Misplayed on every street?
3-bet flop otherwise seems pretty good.
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