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Old 10-01-2007, 05:27 PM
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In this case the dealer is a bad judge of what is good etiquette. If someone asks one of my dealers if they can do something and the dealer tells them it is in poor taste to do so and they chose to do it anyway I will be showing them to the door because poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm not sure I follow that one Randy? It seems that you made one point and then contradicted it. Or it could be my belly is full from a good lunch and I'm having a post-appetite moment? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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In this particular case the dealer used poor judgment.

In generally if you ask the dealer if you can do something and they tell you it is in poor taste and you choose to do it anyway you might not be able to continue playing in the casino
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen.

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This last statement is so patently untrue that I couldn't let it stand without commentary. Poker is a game played by people with money, nothing else. If you are escorting people from your casino for poor taste I imagine you must get really lonely.

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It is in the introduction of almost every set of rules I have seen and is generally on the wall of the poker room. Something along the lines of "all players are expected to conduct themselves in a manner befitting ladies and gentlemen." If you are unable to conduct yourself as a gentleman you will soon find yourself leaving my casino.
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?

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poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen.

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This last statement is so patently untrue that I couldn't let it stand without commentary. Poker is a game played by people with money, nothing else. If you are escorting people from your casino for poor taste I imagine you must get really lonely.

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You are undoubetdly one of those ogres I find in poker rooms who think that you can use foul language and pick your toes at the table.

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Ehnnnn...wrong. I'm quiet and respectful at the poker table. However, I'd much rather play with 9 foul, annoying, wastes of life who have a lot of money and suck at poker than 9 really nice sharks.

Beyond that, the reality is poker is NOT a game played by ladies and gentleman....
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?

I suggest everyone line up so I can kick 'em all in the nuts.

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Old 10-01-2007, 05:47 PM
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In this case the dealer is a bad judge of what is good etiquette. If someone asks one of my dealers if they can do something and the dealer tells them it is in poor taste to do so and they chose to do it anyway I will be showing them to the door because poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm not sure I follow that one Randy? It seems that you made one point and then contradicted it. Or it could be my belly is full from a good lunch and I'm having a post-appetite moment? [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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In this particular case the dealer used poor judgment.

In generally if you ask the dealer if you can do something and they tell you it is in poor taste and you choose to do it anyway you might not be able to continue playing in the casino

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It sounds like you are agreeing with the consensus here that the dealer in OP's post was wrong about his move being poor etiquette. But if the dealer had been correct in a different casino and he chose to do it anyways you'd ask him to leave? Did I get that right?
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: poor etiquette, dealer\'s an idiot or that guy\'s an idiot?

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poker is a game played by ladies and gentlemen.

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This last statement is so patently untrue that I couldn't let it stand without commentary. Poker is a game played by people with money, nothing else. If you are escorting people from your casino for poor taste I imagine you must get really lonely.

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It is in the introduction of almost every set of rules I have seen and is generally on the wall of the poker room. Something along the lines of "all players are expected to conduct themselves in a manner befitting ladies and gentlemen." If you are unable to conduct yourself as a gentleman you will soon find yourself leaving my casino.

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After a couple of decades I honestly don't know what being a good gentleman means in the context of playing a ring game in a casino. Am I not being a gentleman if I don't stand up when a lady comes to the table? Just 40 years ago in some parts of the US that would be considered highly offensive and ungentlemanly.

What if I check raise my opponent? As short as a decade ago in some low limit and low ball games that would have been a major breach of etiquette.

It seems to me that as long as I am acting as the rest of the table is - if they are quiet then so am I or if they are loud and boisterous then I will join in too - and following the rules of the game and not trying to angle shoot anyone then I should be allowed to make any legal moves without worrying about being challenged to a dual at sunrise.

I kind of resent casino's trying to reign in aggressive players who are playing within the rules. It's our money and as long as they get their drop they should stop trying to act like Miss Manners.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:20 PM
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I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:44 PM
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I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week.

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That doesn't mean you can't at least be an honorable and respectful player. The types who think only in terms of money and not in terms of class are the ones who make everybody on the OUTSIDE think that poker players are all a bunch of degenerate, classless gamblers.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:06 PM
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I kind of resent casino's trying to reign in aggressive players who are playing within the rules. It's our money and as long as they get their drop they should stop trying to act like Miss Manners.

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Yes and no. They also need to protect future rake by not having some jackasses piss off everybody else.
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Old 10-01-2007, 07:14 PM
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I get tired of people pretending poker is a gentleman's game. Tired of people talking about so called morals at a poker table. Everyone at the table is either ruthless and calculating, or trying their best to be ruthless and calculating. It's dog eat dog. I wanna take the last of your mortgage payments. I want your children to not eat properly this week.

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That doesn't mean you can't at least be an honorable and respectful player. The types who think only in terms of money and not in terms of class are the ones who make everybody on the OUTSIDE think that poker players are all a bunch of degenerate, classless gamblers.

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It's true for the most part. I hate my fellow players. I just wanna destroy them.
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