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Re: KK, deep, 4-bet preflop, 120bb behind on A high flop
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ummm villain has a set of aces. everytime. [/ QUOTE ] really?? edit: some reasons why he would not have AA. 1. he is an unknown and limped-reraised - we'll say he's a "donk". 2. he donked into a 4 bettor on an A high board - is he really gonna do this w/ AA? id say a donk would do this w/ AA around 0% of the time. and would opt to slow play it. 3. his bet looks much more like a scared QQ/KK bet (maybe even JJ). 4. i dont think he would do this much of the time w/ AK either, but if he does..... 5. equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.089% 44.24% 03.85% 5694 495.00 { KhKs } Hand 1: 51.911% 48.07% 03.85% 6186 495.00 { KK-QQ, AKs, AKo } i say call flop, call/shove turn. |
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Re: KK, deep, 4-bet preflop, 120bb behind on A high flop
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[ QUOTE ] ummm villain has a set of aces. everytime. [/ QUOTE ] really?? edit: some reasons why he would not have AA. 1. he is an unknown and limped-reraised - we'll say he's a "donk". 2. he donked into a 4 bettor on an A high board - is he really gonna do this w/ AA? id say a donk would do this w/ AA around 0% of the time. and would opt to slow play it. 3. his bet looks much more like a scared QQ/KK bet (maybe even JJ). 4. i dont think he would do this much of the time w/ AK either, but if he does..... 5. equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 48.089% 44.24% 03.85% 5694 495.00 { KhKs } Hand 1: 51.911% 48.07% 03.85% 6186 495.00 { KK-QQ, AKs, AKo } i say call flop, call/shove turn. [/ QUOTE ]i agree, i he has us beat he played it terrible, get the money in and make a note |
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Re: KK, deep, 4-bet preflop, 120bb behind on A high flop
Interesting thoughts. I probably should have called down, but I'm still not completely convinced. As it was, I lost KK to AA 4 times in 500 hands last night before this hand, and I folded.
My thoughts after reading through (they haven't changed that much) are that AA seems like a strong possibility preflop but much less likely after he bets the flop. AK is much, much more likely in my mind. JJ-KK are probably enough of an outside possibility to call down. I definitely don't understand anyone who suggested call turn/shove anywhere, I don't think proactively putting money into this pot at any point after the flop is rational. And for the person who said my 4-bet looked big, it feels fine to me. The guy limp/re-raised to 21BB. Against this sort of play I'm satisfied that a monster 4-bet will frequently get calls from hands like JJ+, AK and AQ, and that being the case I like to inflate the pot as much as I can early on. |
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Re: KK, deep, 4-bet preflop, 120bb behind on A high flop
Nice fold, villains range is AK+ FYI
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Re: KK, deep, 4-bet preflop, 120bb behind on A high flop
wow be thanked this board came down, saved you some money.
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