** Official July Chat Thread: The Black Swan ** - Page 293

grouchie · #**2921** 07-31-2007, 03:32 AM

if you are going to continue to give me top 2 against bottom set, at least be nice enough to pair one of my cards on the turn once in a while

SABR42 · #**2922** 07-31-2007, 03:34 AM

Today's session:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($200)
BB ($100.05)
UTG ($117.50)
Button ($209)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, BB calls $21, Button raises to $92, Hero raises to $200, BB calls $77.05 (All-In), Button calls $108.

Flop: ($500.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($500.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($500.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $500.05

Results:
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (one pair, eights).
BB has T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, tens and eights).
Button has 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Button wins $500.05.
 RETARD GETS ALL-IN WITH FOUR-FOUR FOR 100 BB. I'll sell his s/n for $20 bucks if anyone cares. 

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Hero ($231.05)
Button ($188.90)
SB ($22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button raises to $6, SB raises to $20, Hero raises to $34, Button calls $28, SB calls $2 (All-In).

Flop: ($90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $55, Button calls $55.

Turn: ($200) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, Button bets $99.9 (All-In), Hero folds.

River: ($200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $200.00

Results:
Button has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, aces and fives).
SB has T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Button wins $134.00. SB wins $66.00.
 NICE [censored] CALL WITH ACE-FIVE PREFLOP. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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MP1 ($361.95)
MP2 ($108.75)
CO ($192)
Button ($173.45)
SB ($213.40)
BB ($158.20)
Hero ($203)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($27) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $18, CO raises to $36, Button folds, Hero raises to $195, CO calls $148 (All-In).

Turn: ($395) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($395) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $395

Results:
Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (high card, ace).
CO has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: CO wins $395.00.
 BIG DRAW RUNS INTO SET. STANDARD. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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CO ($734.50)
Button ($232.15)
SB ($132.85)
BB ($39.75)
UTG ($239)
Hero ($209.05)
MP2 ($566.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, SB calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($32) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $24, Button folds, SB raises to $66, BB folds, Hero raises to $128, SB calls $58.85 (All-In).

Turn: ($281.70) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($281.70) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $281.70

Results:
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (one pair, kings).
SB has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: SB wins $281.70.
 KK RUNS INTO SET. STANDARD AGAIN. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($119.50)
SB ($147.85)
Hero ($205.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero raises to $25, Button calls $17.

Flop: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($51) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $36, Button raises to $94.5, Hero calls $58.50.

River: ($240) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $240

Results:
Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (one pair, aces).
Button has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Button wins $240.
 BRUTAL TURN. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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CO ($273.70)
Button ($200)
SB ($447.05)
BB ($120)
UTG ($128.65)
Hero ($201.85)
MP2 ($167)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, MP2 calls $8, CO calls $8, 3 folds.

Flop: ($27) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $18, MP2 folds, CO calls $18.

Turn: ($63) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $44, CO calls $44.

River: ($151) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $68, Hero calls $68.

Final Pot: $287

Results:
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (one pair, aces).
CO has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: CO wins $287.
 RETARD HITS HIS KICKER ON THE RIVER. THIS NEVER ENDS DOES IT? 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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SB ($122.45)
BB ($62.20)
UTG ($95.90)
UTG+1 ($388.60)
MP1 ($171.90)
MP2 ($212.40)
MP3 ($41.35)
CO ($142.20)
Hero ($227.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero calls $8, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($21) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $16, Hero calls $16.

Turn: ($53) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $30, Hero calls $30.

River: ($113) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $46, Hero calls $46.

Final Pot: $205

Results:
MP1 has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (full house, aces full of kings).
Hero has J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP1 wins $205.
 GODDAMMIT I KNEW HE HIT HIS AA ON THE RIVER, BUT HE BET SO SMALL I HAD TO PAY HIM OFF. 

KILL ME.

TheProdigy · #**2923** 07-31-2007, 03:41 AM

Wow. Some background:

He got me into online poker, he didn't teach me much but he let me play on his acct(had 40k in it) for the first time I ever played. This is a couple years ago and I never actually ended up starting to play until this year, but he was somewhat the reason as I saw there was a possibility of making a lot of money. I did not trust him when I gave him money, but he and his family live in town, and I can get it by force and authorities I think. I only did it because I am actually indebted to him any money I have made from it because I never would've thought of playing otherwise. Regardless, he will get hunted down by the cops if possible if I don't get this money Saturday. I also txt messaged him this but not in a mean way at all but explained what my actions would be(obviously no type of force or anything I just told him I would start by contacting his family and friends and then the police).

Session Start (chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com:jeff): Tue Jul 31 01:54:36 2007
[01:54] jeff: what up kid??
[01:54] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: not much..12 tabling 200nl on stars [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
[01:55] jeff: wow...
[01:55] jeff: doing well i see
[01:55] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: actually I had a really bad downswing when I moved up
[01:55] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: 17 BI's
[01:55] jeff: i just went tapped at full tilt.. dand
[01:55] jeff: 17k
[01:55] jeff: nice
[01:56] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea i was well bankrolled and stuck it through
[01:56] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: running better now
[01:57] jeff: nice shoot me over 500 at stars...luvdabud...i'll be home this weekend and ill give it 2 u then
[01:57] jeff: no
[01:57] jeff: thats why i need a transfer
[01:57] jeff: lol
[01:57] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I meant myself [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
[01:57] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: where are you going to transfer it from?
[01:58] jeff: just transfer it from ur stars account 2 mine...
[01:58] jeff: ill give u cash this weekend
[01:58] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: ahh ok i need some cash on hand anyways
[01:58] jeff: work out good 4 both of us
[01:58] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea thats cool..uhmm name again and u registered at burg?
[01:59] jeff: luvdabud baby...
[01:59] jeff: yeah
[01:59] jeff: burg
[02:00] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: done
[02:00] jeff: sweet
[02:00] jeff: u playn??
[02:00] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea
[02:00] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: Schwallie4 on stars 200nl tables
[02:00] jeff: k
[02:00] jeff: ty
[02:00] jeff: omaha
[02:00] jeff: is where ill be
[02:00] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: lol
[02:01] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: omahahahaha
[02:01] jeff: good game
[02:01] jeff: get ur $$ in real good
[02:01] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: never played it much
[02:02] jeff: watch, if u have a minute
[02:02] jeff: lol
[02:02] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I will in a bit im gonna take a break before second sesh
[02:02] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: only +200 tonight I wanted to bust out some real money tonight
[02:04] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: You know stars supernova is equivalent to >35% rakeback?
[02:04] jeff: really
[02:04] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea
[02:04] jeff: r u linked up??
[02:04] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: its nuts
[02:04] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: you can buy bonuses directly from stars
[02:05] jeff: wow
[02:05] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: 100k fpp's for $1500
[02:05] jeff: [censored]
[02:05] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I clear like 160k-200k fpp'
[02:05] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: per month
[02:06] jeff: nice
[02:06] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea it's nasty
[02:06] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: still getting my feet wet though
[02:06] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: got a lot to learn
[02:09] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: what table/limits you playing?
[02:13] jeff: 12 plo
[02:13] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I searched ya
[02:13] jeff: 5 10 limit hold
[02:14] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: good bankroll management :P
[02:14] jeff: lol
[02:14] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: Why not dominate some lower limits and build a roll?
[02:16] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: Ok gonna go find something to eat be back in a bit...With the money, so I can know for sure, when are you getting in? Can I just expect a call from ya on that day or somethin and meet you somewhere?
[02:18] jeff: yeahh
[02:18] jeff: ill call u
[02:21] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: cool cool..I'm getting back to my games so cant chat much just hit me up if you robusto the acct [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
[02:23] jeff: lol
[02:23] jeff: ty
Session Close (jeff): Tue Jul 31 02:23:18 2007

Session Start (chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com:jeff): Tue Jul 31 02:38:28 2007
[02:38] jeff: hoot me over 300 more and im callin it a night....
[02:38] jeff: ty
[02:39] jeff: dude just a hit a 2 outer on the river....
[02:39] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: dude I am barely bankrolled for 200nl and I hate giving out money [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I wouldn't actually transfer anyone other than you money
[02:41] jeff: thanks lil man.... but think of all the cash u have made....u were playing 5 s&g b4 i got a hold of u...
[02:42] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I know that's why I sent it to you. I got no worries about you paying me back or anything cause it would be impossible for you not to lol
[02:42] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: with this small of a town and all lol
[02:42] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: but i dont want to mess with my br anymore [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
[02:42] jeff: lol
[02:43] jeff: shoot me over 2 and ill be there on saturday... it wont hurt ur bankroll that much
[02:44] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: so you can just pay me $700 in cash on this saturday?
[02:45] jeff: yes
[02:45] jeff: i lost 8k at tilt 2night.... tryin 2 get a lil back
[02:45] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: ok man but only cause it is you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
[02:45] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: done
[02:46] jeff: 8o|ive taken some serious fckn beats
[02:46] jeff: it happens thogh
[02:46] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: indeed
[02:46] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: thats why i play with a high bankroll
[02:47] jeff: jeff sent you a Voice Clip which requires the latest version of MSN Messenger. To download the latest version of MSN Messenger, go to (Link: http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/122.)http://g.msn.com/5meen_us/122.
[02:47] jeff: i had a monster at tilt, and got my brains beat in 4 a month
[02:47] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: last transfer i ever do lol
[02:47] jeff: thanks dude
[02:48] jeff: cash never hurts
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: Yea..I actually had a -3k month
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: had to move down
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: 3 months ago
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: helped me fix a lot of leaks
[02:48] jeff: its going 2 happen
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: yea
[02:48] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: moving down etc is necessary
[02:51] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: robusto that please
[02:51] jeff: ??
[02:51] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: lol
[02:51] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: busto is the opposite of robusto
[02:52] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: robusto is hot winning streak basically
[02:52] jeff: gottcha my lil man
[02:53] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: gl man
Session Close (jeff): Tue Jul 31 02:53:18 2007

Session Start (chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com:jeff): Tue Jul 31 02:54:01 2007
[02:54] jeff: ty
Session Close (jeff): Tue Jul 31 02:54:04 2007

Session Start (chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com:jeff): Tue Jul 31 03:20:45 2007
[03:20] jeff: just think, if i would nt have got u roundn 2 years ago, u would have about 2k instead of 50k........ my lessons were cheap, thanks for stake and i think were even.... If u really want the money ill give 2 u next time i see u...goodnight
[03:21] *** "jeff" signed off at Tue Jul 31 03:21:04 2007.
[03:21] *** NOTE: This user is offline. Your messages will most likely *not* be received!
[03:21] chaseschwalbach154@hotmail.com: I definitely want the money
Session Close (jeff): Tue Jul 31 03:31:48 2007

Renton · #**2924** 07-31-2007, 03:56 AM

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Today's session:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($200)
BB ($100.05)
UTG ($117.50)
Button ($209)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, BB calls $21, Button raises to $92, Hero raises to $200, BB calls $77.05 (All-In), Button calls $108.

Flop: ($500.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($500.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($500.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $500.05

Results:
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (one pair, eights).
BB has T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, tens and eights).
Button has 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Button wins $500.05.
 RETARD GETS ALL-IN WITH FOUR-FOUR FOR 100 BB. I'll sell his s/n for $20 bucks if anyone cares. 

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i think his play was kinda awesome actually

SABR42 · #**2925** 07-31-2007, 03:58 AM

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Today's session:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($200)
BB ($100.05)
UTG ($117.50)
Button ($209)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, BB calls $21, Button raises to $92, Hero raises to $200, BB calls $77.05 (All-In), Button calls $108.

Flop: ($500.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($500.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($500.05) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $500.05

Results:
Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (one pair, eights).
BB has T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, tens and eights).
Button has 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Button wins $500.05.
 RETARD GETS ALL-IN WITH FOUR-FOUR FOR 100 BB. I'll sell his s/n for $20 bucks if anyone cares. 

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i think his play was kinda awesome actually

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Are you serious? Notice that BB cold-called too. Even if he gets me to fold, he still has ZERO fold equity over BB.

Renton · #**2926** 07-31-2007, 04:04 AM

ok that changes things some, but his play is still far from retarded. I'd say your shove pre was more retarded than his (assuming you had no reads).

SABR42 · #**2927** 07-31-2007, 04:08 AM

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ok that changes things some, but his play is still far from retarded. I'd say your shove pre was more retarded than his (assuming you had no reads).

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So AK 4-handed against an aggro maniac is not the nuts?

TheProdigy · #**2928** 07-31-2007, 04:09 AM

WHAT ABOUT ME GETTTING SCAMMED BY A DOUCHEBAG!

CalledDownLight · #**2929** 07-31-2007, 04:15 AM

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WHAT ABOUT ME GETTTING SCAMMED BY A DOUCHEBAG!

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post graph in MSpaint form in other thread plz

rosso87 · #**2930** 07-31-2007, 04:25 AM

lol how can he be a doucebag when he made you what you are today! lol.

pretty funny comment by him though, for sure bash his head with a tyre iron is the most obv option.