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Old 11-29-2006, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: ~~~Unofficial Baseball Offseason Thread~~~

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Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2004 ANA 144 468 70 130 20 5 10 48 41 92 15 5 .278 .351 .406 .757
2005 LAA 129 416 49 125 23 0 2 37 29 64 19 4 .300 .354 .370 .724
2006 LAA 139 451 50 123 26 6 4 55 39 72 16 10 .273 .334 .384 .718


Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2004 ATL 118 309 33 74 16 0 3 31 23 53 1 3 .239 .293 .320 .614
2005 TEX 66 148 26 36 5 0 8 20 16 35 1 0 .243 .325 .439 .764
2006 TEX 136 520 78 154 40 2 13 74 44 102 4 4 .296 .357 .456 .812

Personally, I like option B.

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park effects
fielding
age

even ignoring all those i'm not sure i take derosa, as his obp is weak

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The real comedy is that even in DeRosa's 31yo "breakout" year, Kennedy had a higher WARP at 4.5 to 4.1.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: ~~~Unofficial Baseball Offseason Thread~~~

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Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2004 ANA 144 468 70 130 20 5 10 48 41 92 15 5 .278 .351 .406 .757
2005 LAA 129 416 49 125 23 0 2 37 29 64 19 4 .300 .354 .370 .724
2006 LAA 139 451 50 123 26 6 4 55 39 72 16 10 .273 .334 .384 .718


Last 3 years Team G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
2004 ATL 118 309 33 74 16 0 3 31 23 53 1 3 .239 .293 .320 .614
2005 TEX 66 148 26 36 5 0 8 20 16 35 1 0 .243 .325 .439 .764
2006 TEX 136 520 78 154 40 2 13 74 44 102 4 4 .296 .357 .456 .812

Personally, I like option B.

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park effects
fielding
age

even ignoring all those i'm not sure i take derosa, as his obp is weak

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We'll find out. Looks to me like Kennedy is declining. Remains to be seen if DeRosa is improving or not, but I hope so.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:00 AM
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Didn't see this posted anywhere but:

The Hanshin Tigers have accepted the top bid -- believed to be about $25 million -- for left-handed pitcher Kei Igawa, SI.com has learned.

[/ QUOTE ] Yankees have the top bid, per NY radio station.

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did the Cubs bid?
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:19 AM
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not going to make a thread for this since i am sure someone will sooner or later, but...

How sad it is that two greats like Ripkin and Gwynn have to get listed on the same HOF ballot as that loser McGwire.

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personally, with his .263 career avg and 5 hall of fame seasons, he would not be a first ballot hall of famer without the steroid controversy imo
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:44 AM
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Kennedy's recent past performance is better than Derosa's...however, there are factors which suggest that Derosa's future performance will be better than Kennedy's, which I listed before.

Still, wouldn't bet three million bucks on it like the Cubs are..
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:50 AM
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personally, with his .263 career avg and 5 hall of fame seasons, he would not be a first ballot hall of famer without the steroid controversy imo

[/ QUOTE ] Mac might not have made it on the first ballot, but should. He's one of the best players of all time at his position; career .394 OBP and .588 Slug %, giving him the 13th highest OPS of all time out of all players. His adjusted OPS+ is tied for 11th of all time with Jimmie Foxx, generally considered one of the two best 1b of all time.

He had a better career than half of the 1B in the hall right now.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:52 AM
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did the Cubs bid?

[/ QUOTE ] They were planning on it, but according to the NY Times, the Mets had the 2nd highest bid with 15-19 mil$, so they weren't close if they did bid.
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:00 AM
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Orioles sign Chad Bradford to a 3 year, 10.5 million dollar deal.

So, they spent 41.5 million over three years on 3 mediocre to above average middle relievers...what exactly went on in the Orioles upper management meetings this year?

"We can't compete with the Red Sox and Yankees unless we have the best bullpen in the world!"

"But, sir! If we spend all of our money in the bullpen our rotation and offense will still be poor! We won't have any leads for them to protect!"

"I will not tolerate thinking in this office. You're fired!"
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:10 AM
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personally, with his .263 career avg and 5 hall of fame seasons, he would not be a first ballot hall of famer without the steroid controversy imo

[/ QUOTE ] Mac might not have made it on the first ballot, but should. He's one of the best players of all time at his position; career .394 OBP and .588 Slug %, giving him the 13th highest OPS of all time out of all players. His adjusted OPS+ is tied for 11th of all time with Jimmie Foxx, generally considered one of the two best 1b of all time.

He had a better career than half of the 1B in the hall right now.

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He still had some real bad seasons .... and a low batting avg

I am not saying he is not a hall of famer .... but i would not put him in on the first ballot
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Old 11-29-2006, 02:11 AM
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Orioles sign Chad Bradford to a 3 year, 10.5 million dollar deal.

So, they spent 41.5 million over three years on 3 mediocre to above average middle relievers...what exactly went on in the Orioles upper management meetings this year?

"We can't compete with the Red Sox and Yankees unless we have the best bullpen in the world!"

"But, sir! If we spend all of our money in the bullpen our rotation and offense will still be poor! We won't have any leads for them to protect!"

"I will not tolerate thinking in this office. You're fired!"

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As a met fan, I loved Chad Bradford last year. And even i did not think he was worth 3 years
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