Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)

[rcs1537]

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Has anyone else tried to get tournament hand histories from AP?

I've been trying and gotten no response, 48 hours and counting. Specifically hand histories for the 100K bounty tournaments.

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i would think that you could probably understand why this is

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If they have locked down transmitting hand history information to all their customers regarding OTHER tournaments not played by POTRIPPER one could easily assume they have something to hide regarding these tournaments.

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

There is more out there to be found. Keep it up 2+2.

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They are probably going back and covering up all the evidence of cheating...

[ikestoys]

wow, this thread is filled with a lot of terrible speculative posts.

[ChrisV]

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wow, this thread is filled with a lot of terrible speculative posts.

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QFT. I'm going to bed, but I expect at least 2 more huge dramabombs by the time I wake up.

[mmbt0ne]

We do not know that William Willis is McBill and it has been disputed that Russ Hamilton has any ownership stake in AP.

Please don't keep saying these things are 100% fact.

[pokerstudAA]

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wtf, take the mcbill and kohleppel stuff out of that, the mcbill is extremely speculative and the kohleppel is flat out wrong.

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I was just trying to compile all the possible evidence/leads that we have uncovered so far. Sorry if some of it is speculation.

[MrTimCaum]

nvm!

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Also I'm sorry I keep mentioning this but, how do we know this guy at AP got fired for sending the Master Hand History. Seems to be hearsay at this point and since we want to get all the facts straight and not put out false information, it would help if we knew what the guy's name is and when he got fired?

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Well N82 mentioned he's divulged 80% of what he knows, and has respected some peoples wishes to remain annonymous. Not sure if someone in the know gave N82 this advice, but it could be the case. Maybe they went to a mod, but I'd
imagine they will obviously want to remain anon.

Anyway is there any chance we can request more HH's from AP, i.e. the Oscar and MCBILL tournies?

Edit: looks like Gabes trying.

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LOL. I did *not* say I divulged 80% of what I know. Please be very careful when quoting what I say.

[adanthar]

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I was just trying to compile all the possible evidence/leads that we have uncovered so far. Sorry if some of it is speculation.

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There is also no evidence that Payup is involved. Take him out of the post as well.

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payup is a superuser account, I checked sheets' HH of that

[ibluffoldladies]

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wtf, take the mcbill and kohleppel stuff out of that, the mcbill is extremely speculative and the kohleppel is flat out wrong.

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I was just trying to compile all the possible evidence/leads that we have uncovered so far. Sorry if some of it is speculation.

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I liked your post, as it summarized the latest findings. While too much speculation is a bad thing, some of it is needed for a good investigation, imo.

[pokerstudAA]

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We do not know that William Willis is McBill

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McBill is from Montana. The SAE frat all these guys went to is in Montana. Bill is a commonly used name by guys named William. McBill won 100k in an absolute tournament with little other play. Seems worth mentioning, no?

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and it has been disputed that Russ Hamilton has any ownership stake in AP.

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