iPhone

[kerowo]

Looking at VerizonWireless.com their voice plans start at 39.99 for 450 minutes, their smartphone/pda plans start at 79.99 for 450 minutes plus data. You aren't getting unlimited data for 5 bucks.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

I have an Env, so I'm not required to get a smartphone/PDA plan.

I get the $39.99 plan for voice

$5 plan for unlimited email and web access. minutes come off my plan.

$10 plan for Unlimited IN Messaging, plus 500 additional messages.

I txt message a lot and very frequently am online to check email and baseball scores.

my bill is always right around $60/month, hidden charges + fees + etc charges included.

[kerowo]

So you're comparing a crappy regular phone interface to mail and the phone version of web pages, if they will show at all. I would say it's apples to oranges but puns aren't funny.

[4_2_it]

This thing is even spawning prop bets:

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Here’s what BetUS.com is betting:
Consumers are reported camping out waiting for an iPhone—3/1
Initial iPhones get recalled—30/1
iPhone sells at least 12 Million units in 2008—5/6
Apple’s stock jumps at least 10% in value in regards to the price on 6/30/07—1/2
Consumers pay at least three times the original price ($1,500) on ebay—2/1
The screen breaks/cracks like Apple’s first-generation nano (iPod)—150/1
There are mass reports of the battery life being less than the promised 8 hours—10/1
Someone is trampled while trying to get an iPhone—20/1
iPhone spontaneously combusts—150/1

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Link to Article

[Nicholasp27]

get Sprint SERO plan; $30/month for unlimited data, 500 anytime mins, free roaming/free long distance/free nights/weekends ($50 if u want 1250 anytime mins instead)

u can get the motorola Q for $99, but rebates will more than take care of that

i post on 2+2 a lot on my phone; view youtube via orb; u can stream your tv/dvr to it with a slingbox; etc etc...gets around 800kb/sec, so not as fast as 3g, but fast enough

[joey_joe_joe]

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So you're comparing a crappy regular phone interface to mail and the phone version of web pages, if they will show at all. I would say it's apples to oranges but puns aren't funny.

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Do you work for Apple or something? Why do you care so much if he uses Verizon? You fanboys are kinda sad.

[wonderwes]

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This thing is even spawning prop bets:

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Consumers pay at least three times the original price ($1,500) on ebay—2/1


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Link to Article

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Bet the house on it.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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So you're comparing a crappy regular phone interface to mail and the phone version of web pages, if they will show at all. I would say it's apples to oranges but puns aren't funny.

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it would be apples - oranges if you were comparing a crappy web experience to a good one. but Safari + Edge will not add up to a good web experience at all. at the end of the day, I'm not sure which web experience will be better: 3g w/ crappy verizon interface or edge + sweet iphone interface. I would probably give edge to iphone, but not enough to justify $40 instead of $5 or $10. or a $500 phone instead of a $50 or $100 phone.

the $40 data plan wouldn't be nearly as offensive if

a) it wasn't mandatory
b) the iphone was on a high speed network

[Evan]

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So you're comparing a crappy regular phone interface to mail and the phone version of web pages, if they will show at all. I would say it's apples to oranges but puns aren't funny.

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it would be apples - oranges if you were comparing a crappy web experience to a good one. but Safari + Edge will not add up to a good web experience at all. at the end of the day, I'm not sure which web experience will be better: 3g w/ crappy verizon interface or edge + sweet iphone interface. I would probably give edge to iphone, but not enough to justify $40 instead of $5 or $10. or a $500 phone instead of a $50 or $100 phone.

the $40 data plan wouldn't be nearly as offensive if

a) it wasn't mandatory
b) the iphone was on a high speed network

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I use edge data quite a bit and it's really not bad. I just did a bandwidth test on dslreports and got 248 kbit/sec. 3g usually gets between 900-1000. It's obviously slower, but a lot of people act like it's totally unusable and I don't get it. I've posted on twoplustwo, searched google, etc. Now I agree that it is weak sauce that iphone doesn't have 3g, but I don't think it is as big a knock as you (and a ton of others, so I'm not singling you out) are making it out to be.

[KungFuManchu]

Bleh, iphone looks great, but honestly all I want it for is widescreen/touchscreen ipod and wireless internet use.

It would be pretty sick if they allow wifi ability on the new widescreen ipods, whenever they come out anyway.